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AAL-5, FAA
Feb:ruary 4, 1987
SEJ:..EX:TED PORTIOOS OF 'I'RANSCRIPl'IOO
CXN::ERN1NG 'IHE .INCIDENT .rnvoLVING JAPAN AIRLINES FLIGHI' 1628
00 NOVEMBER 18, 1986, AT APPROXIMATELY 0218 lJl'C
(Universal Time c.oardinated -Novarber 17, 1986
0219:15 JL1628
0219:32 R/Dl5
0219:36 JL1628
0221:19 R/D15
0221:35 JL1628
0221:48 R/Dl5
0221:56 JL1628
0223:37 R/D15
0225:02 R/D15
0225:12 JL1628
0225:43 ROCC
Alaska Standard Time, 6:18 p.m.)
Anclx:>rage Center, Japan Air sixteen twenty eight; ah do you
have any traffic, ah seven o'clock above?
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy; negative.
Ah, Japan Air sixteen twenty eight; roger and, ah we insight-
ah-tvx:> traffic-ah, in front of us one mile, about.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy; Sir if your able to
identify the type of aircraft, ah-and see if you can tell
whether its military or civilian.
Ah, Japan Air sixteen twenty eight; we cannot identify ah,
the type, ah but, ah we can see, ah navigation lights and ah,
strobe lights.
Roger sir, say the color of the strobe and beacon lights?
The color is ah, -white and yellCM, I think.
Ya, could you (RCX::X::) look ah, approximately forty miles south
of Fort Yukon, there should be a code up there of one five-
five-zero. Can you tell me you see a primary target about
his position?
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy; roger. Sir, I'm
picking up a-ah, hit on the radar approximately five miles in
trail of your six o'clock position, do you concur?
Ah negative, ah eleven o'clock, ah eight miles, ah same level
aver.
Okay, I've got your squawk. It looks like I am getting sane
surge, primary return, ah I don't kncJw if it's erroneous or
whatever but .•.
.n..1628 = Japan Air Lines flight #1628
R15 = Controller position, Anchorage Air Route Traffic Control Center
D15 = Controller positian, Anchorage Air Route Traffic Control Center
ROCC = (Military) Regianal Operations C.arrnand Center
page two -flight 1628
0225: 50 R/Dl5
0225:57
Rcx:x:
0226:03 R/D15
0226:18 RCXX:::
0226:25 R/D15
0227:53 RCXX:::
0230:56
JL1628
0231:48
R15
0231:58 FBKS
0232:04
R15
0232:05 FBKS
0232:07 JL1628
0232:20
JL1628
0232:25
R15
0232:41
R15
0232:45 JL1628
0232:58
R15
0233:00 JL1628
Nes;iative, uhuh, it's not erruneous. I want you (ROCC) to
keep a good track on there, and if you pick up a c:xxle, and
verify that you do not have any aircraft operating in that
area military.
That is affirm. We do not have anybody up there right row,
ah. can you give me the position of the primary your
receiving?
Okay, I'm not. I'm ah, picking up a primary -approximately
five zero miles, south, right up there -right in front of
the ah, one five five zero c:xxle.
Okay, I've got him about his-ah, oh-it looks like about, ah-
ten o'clock, at about that range, yes.
Alright keep an eye on that, and ah-see if-ah, any other
military (unintelligible) in that area.
It is an unknc:Mn, okay, we've lost oontact with it rY:M.
It's ah, I think ah, very quite big ah, plane.
Are you (Fairbanks FAA tc:Mer) pickin up a primary target
right with that aircraft?
Ah, no. It's (the JL1628) the only target I see there.
If you see a primary with it, keep your eye on it. And he
should be at three five oh(zero)also.
Alright, very good, we' re watching.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight, ah request descent.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight, request three one zero.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy, understand, requesting
flight level three one zero.
Japan Air sixteen one er correction sixteen twenty eight
heavy, descend at pilot discretion-maintain flight level
three one zero.
Leaving three five zero to three one zero.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy, do you still have your
traffic?
Stl
. 11 ah rv-m; nrr ah, ah, right formation, in ah formation.
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page 3 -flight 1628
0234:52 R15
0234:56 JL1628
0235:02 R15
0235:24 D15
0235:27 FBKS
0235:30 D15
0235:39 D15
0235:44 FBKS
0236:12 JL1628
0236:18 R15
0236:24 JL1628
0236:37 R15
0236:47 JL1628
0237:23
RCX:X::
0237:25 D15
0237:29
D15
0237:30 RCX:X::
0237:32 Dl5
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy, understand your traffic
is over Fairbanks at this time.
Affirmative - -ah request heading two one zero.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy, roger. Deviations
approved as necessaxy for traffic.
Approach center (Fairbanks FAA to.ver) on the sixty one line.
Approach.
Look at your radar. We got a Japan Air one six two eight,
ah-he's deviating. He's about ah-five miles n:Jrth of
Fairbanks V-0-R squawking one five five zero.
Do you have any traffic with him? He sees traffic, he was
deviating.
Ah -ya, n:J we don't. I don't see anything there aside fran
his, ah-his target.
Ah-Anchorage Center; Japan Air one six two eight, request
direct ah-Talkeetna.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy, cleared direct
Talkeetna, and in-ah-advise me of your p:>sition of your
traffic?
Ah, same p:>, same p:>sition.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy, ah-sir I'm gonna
request you to make a right turn, three six zero degrees,
three hundred and sixty degree turn, and advise me what your
traffic does then.
Right turn, three sixty.
Okay. We have, n:J, we have cxmf irmed,
we have n:J military
aircraft working up there.
Okay thank you very much.
You have n:J traffic at all?
That's oorrect, does he (JAL-1628)
still have sanebody
visual?
He says he does.
FBKS = Fairbanks Airport FAA Approach Cc:ntrol ( 'IOOer)
page 4 -flight 1628
0237:55 Rl5
0238:00 JL1628
0239:01 Rl5
0239:04 JL1628
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy. Sir, does your traffic
appear to be staying with you?
(unintelligible) just looking.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight. Say again?
It ah-disappeared. Japan Air sixteen twenty eight.
0239: 58 Rro::: Ya, this is one dash two again. On sane other equipnent here
we have confirmed there is a flight size of two around your
one five five zero. Squawk one primary return only.
0240:05 Dl5 Okay, where is is he follo.ving him?
0240:07
Rro::: It looks like he is, yes.
0240:10 Rl5 Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy; roger. At your
' discretion proceed direct Talkeetna, Jay one two five
Anchorage. (Jl25 = air route)
0240:23 Rl5 Japan Air sixteen twenty eight; roger. Sir, the military
radar advises they do have a primary target in trail of you
at this time.
0240:24 Dl5 Okay do you have anybody you can scramble up there?
0240:30 Rro::: I'll tell you what, we're gonna talk to your liasion sir
about that.
0240:35 R15 Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy. Military radar advises
they are picking up intennittent primary target behind you
in-trail, in-trail I say again.
0240:51 Rro::: Ah-I'm gonna talk to my other radar man here -has gotta,
he's got sane other equip:nent watching this aircraft.
0240:54 Dl5 Okay.
0240: 13 R15 Roger sir. Would you (JAL 1628) like our military to
scramble an the traffic?
0240:17 JL1628 Negative, negative.
0242:04 JL1628
0242:09 Rl5
Anchorage
Center. Japan Air sixteen twenty eight. Conf inn
direct to Talkeetna, three one zero.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy; affirmative. Direct
Talkeetna and descend at pilot's discretion, maintain flight
level ~ five zero.
page 5 -flight 1628
0242:24 ROCX:
0242:29 Dl5
0244:13 Rl5
0244:17 JL1628
0244:39 R15
0244:41 UA69
0244:43 Rl5
0245:04 UA69
0245:49 Rl5
0246:06 UA69
0246:59 R15
0247:06 JL1628
0247:09 R15
0248:31 R15
0248:34 JL1628
0248:52 Rl5
It looks like he, he-ah-offset left, and then possibly fell
back in-trail. HCMever, I can't see him rr:M, I can't pick
him out.
Okay thank you very much S-R.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy. Do you still have the
traffic?
Ah-affirmative. Ah-nine o'clock, ah, ah.
United sixty nine, Anchorage request.
Ah, go ahead, United sixty nine heavy.
United sixty nine heavy. Sir, I 've got a Japan Air seven
forty seven presently in your eleven o'clock position and one
hundred and one, correction, one, one, zero miles, and he has
traffic (unintelligible) I'll keep you advised, ah-when
you're closer to him I want you to see if you see anything
with him.
Okay fine, ah-we'll look for ya.
United sixty nine heavy. In your eleven o'clock position,
one, zero, zero miles, southlx>und, is a Japan Air, seven
forty seven. He is at flight level three one zero. Says he
has traffic at his nine o'clock position same altitude.
We'll be looking, that's ah-ah, can't see anything yet.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight; roger. I 'm gonna have a
United aircraft get close to you and take a look, ah-to see
if he can identify your traffic.
Thank you.
United sixty nine heavy, turn ten degrees left, radar
vectors, ah-to see traffic.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy. Say the position of
your traffic.
Ah-rDN, ah-ah-rroving to ah-around ten mile, rr:M-ah-ah-
position-ah-seven, ah-eight o'clock, ten mile.
Japan Air sixteen seventy eight heavy; roger.
UA69 = United Airlines flight #69
page 6 -flight 1628
0249:52 R15
0250:00
UA69
0250:05
UA69
0250:07 R15
0250:14
UA69
0250:46
R15
0250:52
JL1628
0251:32
UA69
0251:49 Rl5
0252:31
'IDTEM
0252:36 Rl5
0253:10 Rl5
0253:13 JL1628
0253:27 Rl5
0253:31 JL1628
0254:04 'roI'EM
United sixty nine heavy; roger. The Japan Air says the
traffic is in his seven to eight o'clock position and one
zero miles in-trail.
Okay, we're lookin.
Why Cbn't you get us a little closer?
United sixty nine heavy; roger. Another additional ten
degrees left.
Roger, United sixty nine.
United sixty nine, that's what he says. Japan Air sixteen
twenty eight heavy, say the :position of your traffic rt::M.
Ah-IXM distinguishing but, ah-ah-your I guess, ah-twelve
o'clock below-ah-you, over.
Ah, Center fran United ah sixty nine. Ah-the-ah-Japan
Airliner is silhouetted against a-ah-light sky. I don't see
anybody around him at all. I can see his <X>ntrail but I sure
don't see any other airplanes. Do you see him?
United sixty nine heavy, ah-negative sir. We got just a very
few primary hits on the ah-target and then ah-we really
haven't got a good track on him ever.
If you want we've got extra gas we could bop up another five
or six thousand feet and turn around.
'Ibtem (military Cl30 flight) seven one, ah roger sir. If
you'd like ah-standby, ----'Ibtem seven one, turn ah-right,
heading ~ five, <X>rrection turn right, heading ~ seven
zero, radar vectors to intercept.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy, descend at pilot
discretion, maintain flight level two five zero.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight, ah-pilot's discretion,
maintain ah-ah-two five zero, so-ah-ah-I cann::>t, I <X>uldn't
see ah-U-F-0, over.
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy. Understand you do not
see the traffic any longer.
Affinnative.
Okay sir, we're searching this time, we think we have him.
TOTEM = Military C130 aircraft
page 7 -flight 1628
0254:09 R15
0255:25 'TOTEM
0255:35 R15
0255:38 'TOTEM
0323:
Japan Air sixteen twenty eight heavy, flash your landing
lights please.
Ah, yes sir, we've got him .insight.
'Ibtern seven one, Cb you see any traffic in his vicinity?
Not flashing any lights at this time sir.
JL1628 landed at Anchorage International Airport
(approximate)
UTC
NORAD
FSD0-63
PO TAT
J529
INS
ARTCC
Universal Time Coordinated. (Used to be Greenwich Time, Zulu)
North American Defense Air Command
FAA Flight Standards District Office, Anchorage/S.C. Area
Intersection location name on airway map. (Northwest of .
Fort Yukon.
Airway route
Internal Navigation System
(Anchorage) Air Route Traffic Control Center (Enroute traffic)
PVD Plan View Display (Radar Screen)
ROCC Regional Operations Connnand Center (Military, AF)
350 35,000 feet elevation
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