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Re Ke Gordon Terauchi Fujii Terauchi Fujii Terauchi Gordon Terauchi Gordon Terauchi Gordon Fujii Gordon Terauchi Fujii Gordon Gordon Terauchi & F. Fujii First time for the other crew members, okay that's fine. I think it was the first time. Who was the first person who saw it? It was me. I saw it in - inside. What did you notice at first? During first time we saw light, I think a navigation light. Ah ha, but you saw it visually first you didn't pick it up on radar or anything you just saw some light out there, okay and that really coinsides with the air traffic statement, you called and said do you have any traffic in my area Yeah, yeah before, before, about six minutes before I Saw this one so ah... You were watching him for about five or six minutes before you called... Before I contact Anchorage Center Ah ah, okay Okay fourth question, what did you see exactly shape, light, and all, the shape, lighting, etc. ... Well if you can just explain these to me cause it looks like you've done alot of drawing here so it's not necessary for you to redraw all this stuff This light was amber and whitish, but, when it came to here it was only amber .. . white light. Why don't I understand. (Japanese) right First of all it's like amber and whitish color, came closely it seems like all the output exhaust position of the jets, all these Challenger Look like something like after burners .. . okay okay, like each one of these was an individual exhaust Yes Okay So this light is special like (Japanese) when ah Challenger, yes like Challenger took off amount of flame going on, we can't see Challenger by this flame oe