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T. P. Tamefu ji Beckner Tamefuji Beckner Tamefu ji Beckner Tamefu ji Beckner Tamefuji Beckner Tamefu ji Beckner Tamefuji Beckner Tamefu ji Beckner T.Tamefuji P. T. P. Beckner Tamefu ji Beckner Tamefu ji Beckner Tamefuji No! No! e e e Would you say there was a multitude of lights? Ah, (unintelligible) just I want to describe just ah, light, only light. . -« Okay Yeah, so if ah, there was something flying, but ah, I couldn't see at that time. Okay, ah was there, was there clear night? YeS . « e Okay » clear. And you could distinguish this lights as being different from the Star . « e? NNNOOO « «6 e e e e from the stars? Different is fine. Okay (unintelligible) Alright ah um. How was it first detected? Was it -— someone saw it visually, or did you see it on radar? Who, well, how was it first found? What's found, humm? Er, first sighted? Ah, aS you Know, all the crew ah... Right e e e must watch outside? Right So ah, I must watch instrument and ah, outside so, and ah, as normal flight so I have traffic inside, also Captain traffic, inside, but ah, I'm not sure but a engineer landing calculate he was just sit down back desk calculate... so (unintelligible) departing direction