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- Gordon Terauchi - Gordon - Mimoto Terauchi - Gordon Terauchi Gordon e LTerauchi - Gordon - lerauchi Gordon Fujii Terauchi Gordon Terauchi Mimoto Terauchi Gordon Terauchi Gordon Yeah, let's see what would you estimate the size of the small ships to be? Ah . . . (unintelligible), up here equal to (unintelligible) we saw, ah, second (unintelligible), square, but I saw this on here, ah here, for so I guess this one is maybe separate, separate, then move to here. So ah, ah, (Japanese). Right, yeah, ah uh. if this one was two stacked together, how large was one? This here ah fuselage, fuselage of DC-8, DC-8 fuselage. DC-8, okay . - yeah ah uh, in other words this part right here would be like fuselage of a DC-8. Oh yeS .. Like this... Yeah, yeah, yeah... Okay Maybe, maybe about like this Uh ah, yeah I understand, okay, I got it. That's good. Any other lighted or unlight objects, any other lights? Yeah, we saw ah, some unusual light from ah, top of mothership. Uh ah Ah, it was not regular, but - not regularly, but white - Silverish lights, not in equal span of time, but occasionally flashed, irregularly lighted at all times. Occasional flash Flash, flash And since I've got this on tape, if you will help me later, you know when we write this down, because I can't remember all this stuff. Thank you. (Japanese) First time we cannot see ah, this (unintelligible) so ah, ah, we saw this light, this light, and... Ah uh, okay, thank you very much. 12