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has
advised the writer
that while driving between Ellensburg and Seattle,
Washing-
across
the
sky.
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was
also
seen
bym,
convict
ohauff
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and
This
object
went
into
nosedive
i
and
they
thought
it
would
or-ash. However, before reaching the earth it disintegrated,
leaving
e
long
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ton,
about
3:30 P.H.,
pillar
%
on May 5, 1947,
he
of "g;s.s"hanging in the sky.
maimed in form and did not
blow
sighted
s. silver
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army.
It
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object
stre:ikin.;
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odd beoam-<-.
was observed by these
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high
rate
of
speed
and
when
itdisintegrated
itwas
still
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évc
w-.~;y
from the earth. aid
whenhe
first
saw ithe
thou;-ht itwas
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probably
s. jet
propelled
plane but that
he
ti.-ans were erratic.
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he
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an II"
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mo
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he
hid noticed so
discs. Although three people sew it,
they
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The
Seattle
Office
isWashington.
requested
toadvise
re-.
-ere.
57¢
Air Force, S-2 , l!cChord.Field,
No further action is being taken by the Butte Office due to the
time elapsing between the sighting oi
this
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Dear Sir;
I am
transmitting
copies
herewith
a"restricted"
of
datt
letter
September
1947,
was
5,
which
furnished
to
me
by
Lieutenant
Colonel
_!~-2, Army
Air Forces,Hamilton Field,California, whic letter J A
is designated
to certain
Commanding Generals
in theArmy Air
Forces from
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Col0ne1_ Assistant
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Intelligence, Headquarters
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Air Defense
Command, Mitchel
Field, New
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with AAF on Investigations
of Flying
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Itis
my understanding from recent Bureau instructions that we
are
the Air Force Intelligence
personnel in the investigation
of flying
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interpretation that
will be
it was
noted from
the attached
their intent
that the
letter that
tion of
the Bureau
is respectfully
called to
It
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Bureau would inveeti-F
gate those incidents of the sc=oel1ed "discs" being found on the ground and
apparently not those which
are
observed only in flight.
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of this
I
letter
and to the last sentence therein which
states,
"The s_e_:__'vi§e__s
of the,F_BI_were
enlisted in
order
to relieve the nubered Air Forces of the task of tracking §
down_all the § §"instances
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in this
letter appear
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the type of investigations
which the Bureau
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be asked
to
handle and secondly it
appears to me the wording of
the last
sentence in
the second
paragraph mentioned
above is
cloaked in
entirely
uncalled for
language tending
to indicate
the Bureau
will beasked to
condmité
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in thosecases
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this matter
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which
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say the
the Army Air Forces
conduct and also to
least, is
paragraph two.
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to
is recommendedthat
discuss
the
matter
no indication
givenindicatingthis letter wasreferredto me
by Lieuterient
colonel".
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cause the excellent
personal
relationship
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The nemsnaper, Seattle Fost Intolligencer,
carried an rrticle
in the
morning issue
of
August 13 renorting
the sighting
of
flying disks.
The article
appeared on the
fifth
page and was headed
"Blue
Triangle LatestThing Seen In
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by one Y..J I.
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with
BRUCE
in front
of
lO2nd gtreet
IRMSTRONGon Auoust
Section
D
Seattle
3
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of the Boeing Aircraft
going south over Boeing Field
interview,
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a
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in substance,
short writeup "hich strted,
that one
BRUCE
ARMSTRONG,
an electronics
technician,
end
a
number
of
other engineer: at the seeing Aircraft
had sighted e mvsterious flying object Ebout 2,33
p.m. on August
12.
The newspaper report further
stated that the object seemed
to be fluttering
like e leaf, and apnesred to be
a
black
or
dork blue trienguler
suhstence.
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also appeared snotner
renort
of
c'
disk
supposedly
crioed it as
e
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caption there was
s
loaf,
the
object
appeared
and he estimated
run ay.
triangular
in
bout
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ARMSTRONG
further
st.
shape and floated
in
the speed t~ be about fifteen
ten
out 2C0
eted,
upon
the
air
miles per
hour.
but itis
noted that Section
D
is about half
e
mile freq the opposite
Boeing Field where he supposedly had sighted it.
r_ tn»object
not
accurately
The followi1-
other
determine
the distance
between hin
and
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of
i_1e
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research
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were
interviewed
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of direction opinion
ofand iisnp these menwas thnt the object resembled 2 bleak l¢=f
fwtstorly
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of
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was
sq?
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of
tar paper than any§ingl3?The
the runway in Boeing Field
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climbed into the
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sky inc
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for
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record
of
V
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that
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he reviews
of such.
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the Northwest @1TlineS
ell
ranorts
of
objects
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seen
such an item, but uron contact with Kr.
who ondut,atthetimetheobject
wee
supposedly
sighted,
the
o_lo92-ling
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pieces
of burnt paper
which
flea. over the__field,
and he did recall a large piece of
burnt
paper which the wind had blown" across
the
runway
and down the
south
end of the
field.
view
ther
of the area in which the engineers
had sighted
was noted it would have appeared in the log.
estimated
that
the
object
amrthing
paper
was
approximately
three
feet
inlength.
=5-tated that
undoubte
7
this was the object in question,
and i_nas::;uch as the control tower has
e
complete
,
2. 3,;,
,; ea
areQ?
ing his report
of a flying
he Led sighted.
an object
which
stated
object.
he estimated
this
about h p.m. on august
12
to be about
35,000
feet
in
the air,
A neighbor, _
the samewith
a
pair of binoculars.
f
ACC.'>1"CliI
toP-the object
looked
1E
likeashite
dock
moving,
cylindrical
inb[C
'15
M:
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shape,
and re_lected
the
light
of
the
sun with
a sort
of
ourolish
and their
version
of the object
witnesseswhohadseenthe object at this time were<'
of
f
fur-
was
then
interviewed
retard
HI
that
which was flying over his homein a southwest direction.
also sawthe object andpexemined
if
Seattle,
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with_,
at Qoeing Field,
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revealed
of the SeattleWeather
Bureau
Office
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are released
every
co-msnencing
at l;3O a.m. The balloons,
six hours
according to _Jr.
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ofawhite
gum
color
and
reflect
thelightoithesun
atahigh
altitude.
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been
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is
that,
from the description
either
one of his balloons
being
conducted
in
this
of the object
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of saucers,
the
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contained the namesofKBlILf.UGHES,JOAQJBRUUKSTON,
and
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and Mrs.
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by
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of ice,
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and Mrs.
went
out
on
the
porch.
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believed
ap roxinately
a dozen objects
flyinz
in group Formation
size to nirsons
that
thousand
feet is and
the stated
air.
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stated seemed
that to
they first
observed
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on Seotehber
10:30
when their
bridge
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at about two or three
these
obiects
an and both
coioles
birds
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in
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directio
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be rather
white
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could
have
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birds;
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the
as they circled
the city
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1947.
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dial
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responsible
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captioned matter from
the Special Agent
in
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dated
September 19, 1947, which
attached a "restricted"
letter
that was furnished confidentially
to
the
SAC at
Sn Francisco
by
lieutenant
Colonel Denali In Springer, A-2, Army Air Forces,
Hamilton Field,
Ualifornia,
a copy of
which
is attached hereto.
It is noted
that the letter,
which
is dated September 3, 194?, is signed "By Commandof
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of Communist sympathies for the
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discs
might
have been made
by
individuals
purpose of causing mass hysteria
in the United States over the fear of a secret
Russian weapon.
The
Bureau agreed to assist in the investigation
of the reported
sightings,
and the Field was advised in Bureau Bulletin
No. 42,
Series
1947, dated
July 50,
l9i7,
that they should investigate
each instance which was brought to
their attention
of the sighting
of
a flying
disc in order to ascertain whether
not it was e bone fide sighting,
an imaginary one, or a prank.
The results
of
investigation
conducted
by
the Bureau
Field
Offices
in this matter have failed
reveal.eny
indicction
of subversive individuals
being involved in any of the
to
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THE DIP TTUR
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letter
states
in
that
substance
it
was the
original
intent
of.the
AC/AS-2,
Headquarters,
Arng'Air
Forcesthat whereas
the ADC
Air Forces
would
discs oeing found on the ground.
FBI
were
enlisted
in
order
to
Further,
relieve
the
tracking
downall the manyinstances
which
toilet seats and whatnot."
it
indicates
numbered
Air
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of
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be
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delphia,
a viseasfollows:
Between
10:30
and 10:45 p. . on August 6, 1947, she was sitting
the
stepsofherhome
with*
on
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was
facing
north and
observed
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alarge
white
object
traveling
atavery
fast
rate
ofspeed
tothe.
south.
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.
sound,
not
object
passed through the air.
streak
of smoke, which
too loud
but
plainly
This white
was grayish
audible,
object
left
just
in its
after
trail
thi
a~thin
in color.
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Miss
P10yed by the
Philadelphia,
was sitting
on
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steps of
home
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ofAugust
6,1947
round 10:45
p.rn.
in conversation
withb
when
*tl'ruptly
sto
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in
the
middle
ofsitting
her
conversation
andappeared
to be ightened.
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thattime
was
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in which
slight
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buzzing
sb
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steps of his
home around
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on August
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the
their steps next door t the residence of
were
facing
east.
at
messed
amily,
were sitting on
All of the above parties
thistimeanobject,
emitting
abluish-
white
the
The object
flame,
passing
quickly
through
air.
was traveling
condensation
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the above object was between
1000
trail
in
its
from
Using his experience in the Army Air Corps as a guid
and 3000 feet in the air
and traveling
at a rate of between LOO to 500 miles an hour.
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=-not lose elevation
as it passed through the air and left
either
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in
ofexpression,
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a
P nilade1phia,
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whowas a former pilot of B-24's
in the Army Air Corps, advised as follows:
northeast to southwest.
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was facing
former path, which lasted
for
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object dis
smoke or a
about two seconds.
:2-1, ,1sound
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A hissing
the passing3;: this object.Swiiti
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the steps
oftheir
home, when noticedan object
resemblinghim
toa
giant firecracker,
pass quickly
the object
split second.
had completely
passed
from
It left
afiery
trail for
falling but
maintained the
100 feet.
August
1947,
6, £
76
was
clear
a
night,
and
storm
no
was
brewing.
was
sure
the
object
he
saw was no
falling
star, and
he noted
the above
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as to
same altitude.
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the above-mentioned
ob_]ect. .
It is
to be noted that
Philadelphia near
the "and
Oxford Circle,
be
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the 1ive
which is
in Northeast
miles removed from the
about ten
W
residence 01*
_ residence
is located in the western
XE
part of Philadelphia The
d.are hot
known
to
the
above.
Fm
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further
noted
observation
the
of
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theand
the
vroughly
correspond.
of
the
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above
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inquired
it
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if
offer
any
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an oil
refinery or
Both the
Offices of
delphia were
recuested by
Naval Intelligence
the Philadelphia
and Army Intelligence in
if either
Office
to
ascertain
Army
or
the Navywas doingany experimentalwork onnewtypes
of
equipment,
in
the
sults. The
Office of
curred at
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chemical
company in their neighborhood.
vicinity of
Philadelphia. buch
Naval Intelligence
, S3
rDe
ety par
INCL, 5000 Richmond Street,
the
planes or
was done with negative
indicated that
an explosion
the CHARLES I_.F1NNIG CI-IEREICAL
COMPANY onAugust 6,
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1947
tmen t o1'
the CHARLESCHEMICAL
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follows:
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LENNIG COMPANY is about
The account
of the
two and
fire does
above-mentioned flying
one-half miles
not seem
object, for
to fit
itis noted
southeast from
l947
Oxford Circle.
into the
general pattern
of the
that the
flying object
was
allegedly traveling
from
aposition
northeast
Oxford
ofthat,Circle
to
asouthis
tothe best
westerly direction
in
Philadelphia.
*ointed out
of his
ii ,
knowledge, there
around Oxford Circle or
type are several miles
El.
All logical
will be
taken
on
Bureau. -
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are no
oil refineries
north of
south of
such, but that all
Oxford Circle.
investigation having
the instant
matter unless
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dated July
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that two
army officers
reportedthe
to
Office of
the Director
of Intelligence,
at Fort
Richardson, Alaska,
that they
through the
air at
atremendous
X/&#
headquarters Alaskan
Department,
had witnessed an object passing
rate of
speed which
could not
be judged
as to miles per hour.
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attention was
it out
attracted
to
to the
object appeared to be shaped like asphere
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second of-
and did not give
officers attempted to determine the approxiniate altitude
object, and
termined that
.'_1l
below the
from aweather
cloud formations
"scattered above
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10,000 feet."
group stationed
at the
time the
that in
and was silver in
his opinion
color, mach
also pointed
out that
proximately
it
s
due south
l5 to
the object
20 seconds.
at aspeed
the object
like the
ap-
color
of
Ga.
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The officer stated substantially
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sighted were
7
officer stated
peared to be metallic
many airplanes.
nearby it
object was
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traveling
cloud formation.
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When sighted,
considerably in
excess of
the same facts
and
his vision
the object
for ap-
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was traveling
any plane.
The second
officer stated that the object appeared
to him to
be approximately 10 §
feet in
diametercompared
and to half
it the 5133
of a-full
moon
on
an fly 
ordinary night. The secondofficer based the altitude at approximatelyya,
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that
his
turn pointed
feet diameter
in
didand
not
leavevapor"
any'
trail inD121"the
sky;
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stated
he in
the irrpression
of being
saucer-like or
comparable to adisk.
The first-*
officer stated
that itwould
be impossible
to give
minute details
concerning the
object, but
that it
appeared to
be
approximately
two or
three
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officer
object, and
the same as the first officer
except for
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to be only
approximately 3,000
or 4,000 feet. The
object appeared broadside to
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and no evidence of aspinning
motion or
reflection
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noted. As
to the
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he had
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citizen.
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on
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no
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in the
community
°lr lake
of Illinois.
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stated
that
he had no.1 -ecord or
knowledge of
of 1-»
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that he
the featwed
writer of
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and other
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ships",
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disc
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of the Army and Navy, who discussed
<
of flying
the possible relation between the Hurray Island erplosion and the appearance
discs.
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reported
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the plane
crashed near Ehmilton
that
plane
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the
had exoloied
combustion
of the lavauoxidemetalit carried.
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and Pug.-:ust 12,
1947,
in the
above
cautioned matter.
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ountain View
Drive, Boise,
Idaho, was
viq-,-wed
at
the Boise
esloen
gfency,
Boise,
Idaho,
by
sr-.
I-Tr. advised
that he received a letter from
" --- _Au;_-'ust
19, 1947.
Editor, Fivsnston,
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T"r.dadvised
concerning
=1 -
the flying
wi -ich letter
Illinois, dated
inter-
June 26,1947, in i-rhich
that hewas interested
in publishing
an
article in his ma;- azin
discs seen by
Yr.
is being
enclosed to
near
rt Rainier
the Bureau.
seted
on
-Tare
24 1947,
ths=- ne din not
.zrive
much tho'92'"ht
to letter until
wrote
him
aqsin
endsent
ir-forme
é
him that
of Tacoma,
Wsshincton, had
him
Fre;-ments of 1: flying
,, {,2
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disc and tha'would
he like
iashingqton, and
contact to
K that they all
told
him if
hirr to
find out
5'70
Tzicov-s,
to
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if there
was any
tthru
in
their story about thedisc fragments.He statedthat he did not answer
letter, but inquired of several friendsfor their opinion in the matter, and
desired to pay his expenses to go to Tacorn",
Washington, and look into
this matter,
that they
did not see where he had enj,-thing
to lose.
He informed that he Fave a talk st
the Boise Rd Club on July
25,
194 .-
etc-ut the
flying discs
he
he-d
seen,
and also 0.the request
contained in
1"
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letter to
go to Tacoma to investigate additional
of disc fra 'ments
by
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information regarding"
ihe find-
1'
" nadvised
i. -_,§92"
that following
his
talk,
hewerewas
approached
by person
oth and
that they
very
reliable
92.
who said
he knew
individuals. He
34
stated that
after thinking
it over,
he calle
Ltelephone
__
hat
emf at
Q
from rim
iiesterr Ifniorr
the next morrixlgg. He informed that
'1
.1-om-=., .".'&shinp:t0n, his
vie personal
plane on July 30, 1947. "pen
which time
he inf'or'med
he would contact if-d
Q?
investigate
matter
the money.
regarding;
the disc
f'rEfme1'1tS,
woulc money
Se-:1
himifé7ex
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expense
He
also
advised
he
thatreceived
§'-200.00
' Fendleton, .Ore;:on, he
told his story to
N..I ¬
0
he left
for
arriving st
Ins_pe_ct__or
from Portland,
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that
lended
he
Barr_v'skAirportst
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the Tinthrcp
I-Eotel. We
informed that
he then
ca e34?lSEy;t£}L¢g
to
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;e,1'1¢;
to_tal1:
arrangements
him
to
rep-ardin_c_thebr§§=c
i_ie
thst
insistedcoming
on
the
to hotel
room 1mi..ed1.
elj.r§3n$hts.
I_!oT
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at
*1advise
-Q,"j d;
c<§,@..?;i hotel
ro'om, si-ated that he wantedto for,-at a ou
the
had been
happeninvt
him,toand
advisedhome
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and forgret
about
f"- -l
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the discs.
Ur-_ stated that he
inf orrned .that
he wanted
to obtain
all
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the
information
that
had
was
and that
it
or phoney,
so unusual
and
Aurust
was
but
fantastic
then
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and that about
twenty
be
left
follo".-:i.1§:
story, providinghis hemeand
out:
srd I'm
tellinr you in
n
-stated
th
hem
ome,
of
u
on the beech at hsuri
:
number of the fragments and had
taken
hissuperior
ofi1GP1"
had
tollhim
tosend
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that _92-would
Yn
continued
stating
that
o.
th
analyze
eafternoon
of
June
21,19-27
l
the
specimens
.
re was on patrol with his boy, dog, and two seamen near a cove on the esst side
of the
host
cf Veuri Island.
He stated that he looked
up
through the windshield
are
at
s height of about 1,000 feet,
he sew six round circular
grey
objects
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ihese 0bj CtS
enpeareo
tt"t
looked like large inner tubes slightly
squashed.
to
be
about lCO feet
across
and in the center was e hole about twenty five feet.
-se.id
he essumerl they were some type of e balloon.
The object
u.S
than
other
lower
the
rest
of
the
other
objects,
and the
in
objects
around it.
ihe object in the center seemed to be descending while
Followed.
As the objects
object
and whet
appeared
descended he sew
port
to
be windows.
the
center
were
the
holes around the inside
He stated
that
the
object
in
circlinf
others
of the
the
ce>ter
¢escended
to
about 500 feet,
end that suddenly one of the circlini
objects
came
down and touched the object in the center and remained in this position for v
T he Object
f*W minutes, while the other objects continued to circle
above,
_u ich had descended and touched the object in the center and which was lower,
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~-oers
"
ihen the
sky
E. -,7
hed fallen
nice wayto forcet about it and keepyour mcvihShut."
b tthat
D
the fre F mentsto
then
3.
material
the-t he hsd obtained e. lerre
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ton of this
Island,
end into the boy, and that a day after this incident,
s
men about forty
Island
veers of ewe had contacted him and told him.'"I
know whet you sew at Thuri '
free
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toforget
about
thediscf re._e"rr1
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stated that his dog hed been killed
and his boy hurt and that
the wheel mount on his harbor patrol boat had been struck by disc fragments,
5.
1,
Patrols
replied that his story
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whet
he we
agreedto tell "r. -the
Harbor
immediately
a phoneythat
that
th
P7, 1947
regarding
disc
fragments end that he understood
about
thethe
disc fragments,
stating there was nottinr
told the press
to the story
use not false
;..
available
rose
and took
place
with
All of the objects
came out of the center
then started
to rise
of
in
the
the
seemed to rein lava,
:?-heeded
the
object
in
the
center
clouds
of
stern
rose
the-beach.
its
He rlso
boat
for
from
water.
that
object
He stated
be s white
to
the
objects.
the
and what
middle
of
aypeerei
the
that
metel,
He stctcd
his doy was killed
that
the
lave
some
of
oz? also
n
in
conine
'1:
K2es 11-.fell
the
to be news7 ob ect.
the center
circlinr
the lave coming from the object
shore.
appeared
stated
other
from
the
sec, the v-"fer,
love
sec gull
lcndcd
on
in Pd ltioh
tr:
his
boy
beiry"
hurt
bf;thefallinc:
lava. r. Cor-tinnaed
stating
thst
had said lihet lie had token pictures of the objec and that. if 7.'r.
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Dinector, FBI
August 2'7,
1947
Reziiilying
Discs
Tacoma,
Wu.
H
__
he received a telephonecall from the press upon
tented
returning to his hotel room, and that the press wanted to know
about
the flying
disc
fragments,
and
hetoldthem
thathewas
nottalking:
untilhehad
proved
4
it. Hestated
hedidnotknow
how
thepress
everknew
hewas
in Tacoma
orhad
59°"
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informed
.
that at 9:30 5-.!v?.the next morning, July $1, 1947,
at his
hotel
appeered
room
and again asked
himto sohome
and forget about the discs, that his story was not false, but that he had had
enoughtrouble. _said
that his boy had been missed one morning-;
and had been
found at Lust,
Montana, waiting
in a cafe;
on tables
that
he did not know how
he had got there and that too manythings were happening.
stated
to
his
hotel
room,
they
had
an
arnful
of
67¢
then informed about howhe had seen an
objec
that
when
_came
fregzsents, and that ihad
resemblingthose seenby
he had taken the patrol boat
'
steted
on July 23, 1947, and had gone to Msuri Island and had found the beach littered
with lava.
with
port
he had looked up and had seen s balloon-like object
ststed
holesandwindows,
which
haddisappeared
intoa largecloud.Q
to see the pictures
of
stated um; he askediag-sin
the objects; that:
hadagain agreedto showthemto him. _info1-med
it would
be
asked-1
who
andhear__ stoq.
He also
stated
that
that he hadthen
all right for him to call a friend,
had also seen someflying discs and let him ape the fragments
he had
placed
Qdissented,
a call
however,
_
to Lieutenant
readily agreed.
BRO!-'1
erd Captain
DA .'I1
Army
S092!,
intelligence officers at Hamilton Field, and had asked them to
come to his hotel,
as they had previously
thing;
of
an unusual nature or
of
interest
_
instructed
regarding:
him to report to them -any'
the flying
discs.
He stated he flew to Seattle and got lnd
andCapts._in"192A"IDi'IO?i
hadcome
to his room
about4:00 PJJ. ~
that -Lieutenant,
advised that he had asked Li"e'i'§ter=ant
BRO'i
just what
|
he had found out regarding
the discs, and Lieutenant BRO.- had
.1"92'i
confidentially
informed him that they had
obtained a picture of s disc, which appeared to he authentic, which picture
was taken by e man in Phoenix, Arizona.
The picture, according to Lieutenant _,_
.-{_;!!BOz.'N,
wa§ oi s circular object with a hole in the center, and
of
another object
--that looked like a flying wing. He stated that whenLieutenant BEG- told
N
him
this that he i unediately thought
of
after hearing
the object seen by-EAHL.
He stated -that
story, Lieutenant BPOWW
s-d Captain 11WJD$ON's
attitude
had
changed
immediately,
and
thatthey
appeared
disinterested.
_Itwas
then
sup-rested that they all '0
to Maur-i Island and look for the disc fragments.
r.nd._Ccpte.inD VIDS6N,state'.'that they had to return to Hamilton
E- ield'im-ssdieteiy.
gets-.ted
that Lieutenant
.-.B!T£>9!!é
andGaptein
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wsie very careful to gather up all
of
the fragments which had been broughtto
the room
by
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stated thatthe nextmorning he
received a
call frdrn_
whetold him
that Lieuteapt
B-25 crash.
the olsne
before
He stated he does not lmow how P.-new who
anyone else.
He also stated that
during the
l llwiihd captain
' numeroustelephone calls.
were received
the conference.
He stated
that someone
was going
on and what was being said
_United Press
place during
92l
the conference,
to be contacted
by
_
in s
from the
press, wanting
to 1-snow about
kept. tipping
the press
off
as to what
daily verbatim.
He informed
and even knew of the crash
Army Intelligence,
e dContain
of the
tint
that
expected
the crash
them that
the mysterious
had told
B-25 had
not crashed,
A:-nw
informant
to the United
had informed
about the
informant who
but had
with
revel contacted.
stated that he and went down
survivors of
took
B-25 and those
as they were the last people
DAVIDSMJ, however, they were
He further
Press to
see what
the
.. .
his I -.
l .h9.1; E~C1 told
him that
the
1947
had been iu=
above conference
men at Tacoma, appeared to know all that
[Lieutenant BR6W[!
crash and
had been calling
been shot
dovm, also
had said that an observer at
Kelso,
that .
Washington, had
seenplane
the out
throw
landing
a
after
flaretwo
the survivors
had jumpe
.i._
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from the
vi
thet then came
L
forget about
plane, and
hillside, and
that the
further
apparatus, protectinr
f;
DAVIDSQI hadbeen killed
aboard, before
the Army released this
inf'ormatior.. informed
when he received news
of the
crash, that
he and
_ ully
n
-<
h
August 27,
Ru; Flyingebiscs
-Tacoma,
-vn. .
4-- 1.-1.,
92-U nun
plane had
that
one
a steep
dive and
dove into
that
the
fire
the engine, had failed to function.
to
see
the discs,
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_ststed
him ard r.d told
that such
things as
the B-25
s~*
them to -to home
and
crash had
been happening
VO
tsted that
he thencalled at
him that
the deal
was off
have it;
that two
men had been killed
whole thin-I.
gone into
engine had been on fire, but
ile stated
and that
if
he wanted his $200.00
and he
that inf or-med
was getting
him that
Chicago and
told
back, he
could b
frightened of
it was
all rirht
the
__
.
*
with him
_to keep
the
$300.00,
however,
would
he him
sendadditional
an tothis telephone
for
check
theIAcal
' trouble
he had
put to.'_dvised thatrevio-as
e called
told him
.- ~s
--.92 i.
that he did not
his rmma,
dof
have
faith in
conduct an_investigation on _and get
Galso advised
that
previous
asked the oress to
investigate
_- lthey could not find and
the Chicago
Times had
and
Army hatelligence
and for lie
to the bottom of this disc fantasy.
to the two above
telephone calls,he had
as
Army Intelligence had informedshimthe
knew nothing:concerning; him, and appearednot to
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1947, however, when~ -"'35 9PP1"° ¢h@d i1" this 1"9P'-B1"'l;
H > Iv "'5'"O- Q
t; the boat house
wher@ T'eot
his boat, could not
se°.'r! to
make the beet run,
and after
making some excuses that
he had to r_et1rn_to
his
office he-d
stated
that
he
.*:ou1c'.
return
r-bout
inthey couli
hour,
anell proceed
by
sodthat
time
his mechanic
shonlé hsvo
the hoot
ren2ire4 srd
to ;tri
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n "&b1E to
locateput
any
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=2o thrt thev
were
of thetel<=."~hor~e numbers
he had_r"ive'- thew
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locateri
Fnmovie,
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to
sfter
rr;skimr_
some
efforts
to
locate
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or-med
that
them
sec left
tour for
afew
13.11;/s. T-Fefurther fmformec
that about
this titre
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of
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that the Army, when approached for information,
they actually
exist,
and
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nothing
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them.
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that
Lieutenant
BFOWX
and
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had contacted him on July 20, 1947, at Boise, *deho, regarding the discs
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I have just read an account in the Chicago Tribune concerning
an aerial
train
composed of at least
9
units shaped like a
pie-plate
and silvery
in color, traveling
at 1200 m.p.h. near
Mount Ranier, as witnessed by you while flying in the vicinity.
This is quite important to me, because
I
have in my possession
numerous independent confirmations
of what you saw, although none
in as great detail
as your
account.
I em interested
in publishing
an article
in our magazine, written
from a personal account by
yourself,
and accompanied by pix of yourself,
plane, and rough
sketches by yourself,
of what you saw.
If
you care to do this
for me, I am prepared
to pay our usual
rates of 2d perword, plus $5.00 for each photograph you can
provide,
to
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or for
the
each sketch which
can be used by our art
article.
Included in this material,
we'd
like
a
short biographical
sketch of yourself
as Ieuthor background" material.
The
article
would appear under your by-line.
If you are not interested,
I
letter
from
you,
confirming
would at least appreciate
the newspaper story.
Very truly
yours,
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running
it.
seems the newspapers are pestering
of all you fellows.
what-you'd
told
wired
tulu
mu [:6
me over
the
was
phone.
the very devil
me for instructions,
out
and I
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him to say nothing th the newspapers, because he'll
look
if the
army
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this
as "meteors"
or something like
that.
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told
silly
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I don't
blame
trouble
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you for being alarmed, but I trust
in your
flying
two mun killed
nus not
an
Let's
get that
straight--
plot
infolved.
It's
probably
true that
were just
accidents.
It
accident,
but
I
You see,
you aren't
the
for nearly
forty
your experience
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the
it
was any connection
nor
is the material
from completing
your report
affidavit.
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years,
was the
first
to
see
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first
have
real
them.
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break
hate to have you drop the mat --er when all
file
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nature,
be true
have some money coming for that, and no sense to tossing that out
of the window. It is unfortunate
that the thing seemed so big
you had to call in army intelligence,
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take them a
long time "Lo proceed to the point I've
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and sending me your
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don't
thin];
with the disks,
or anything
of
from Murray Island to blame.
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you've
had
no
then.
there's
no horrible
since
I.
willing
to
tling
uust
contribute
not
be hushed
They've
been known
proof
of
toward
e
remaining
his share.
I
up and
that.
But
solution.
forgotten.
to
I'd
do is to
hope you will
too.
It'smuch too
important
to the
people
of America, if not the world.
And no
censorship
oi the matter is legal.
You needn't
fear ihet angle.
You certainly
did a bang-up job of investigation,
also
you wrote
one of the best articles
about your June 2!; experience
I've
ever
seen.
those
Please
two
I'd
also
do
the
same
men
the
were
on
this
lest
like
to know whet developed
business.
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on those
pictures
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afraid
A corpse long ago}
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¢-4..
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I'd
have been
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with
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in the
send
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hoping you
do
the easy part now and get that report
on paper.
A eheok for your June 2h article
is going out to you-
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