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patrolling in his at near TI
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whil
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of
which fluttered to the
earth and disintegrated,
showering his
boat
with fragments which caused sane
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boat
and
killed
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dog.
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above
story.
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Boise, Idaho, who was the
first
to report
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ne igencefrom
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Hamilton Field, California,
all met in
room at various times during»;
the afternoon and evening of July 31, 191;? and discussedthe
story
as
related by
flying
disc
The ArmyIntelligence Officers, Captain
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about
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left
A. If. the morning of August l,
l9£;? to return to Hamilton Field, California for fair Force Day in
a
F5-25 and
were carrying some of the reported disc fI ¬:1-{f:I18I'ltS.
The left engine on the
B-25
burned
an
exhaust
stack
which
inturn
caught
the
left
wing
afire,
the
A7
wing
subsequently
breaking
off andtearing
off thetail. The
B-25 crashed,C
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and Lieutenant BEOZIN.However, the Crew Chief and
a hitch-hiker parachuted to safety.
Intelligence
Officers at ;IcChord Field,
Washirxgton advised there was no indication of any sabotage. The plane crashed
.
at Kelso,
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and
and
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Five anonymous
calls were received by a
the
approximately
11:30
1.1=o0A. rs. and 12=oonoon, August1, 191+?
by the
advised that at that moment
a
which the caller
room
number
in
carrying
disc
in
big meeting was taking place
502, Winthrop
Hotel; that the B-25whichcrashedwas
fragments
and that
I-EcChord
Field
The third
call
officials
had stated
was received Friday,
he so, aashington was carrying flying
indicated
th:..t when the
names
were released,
information he was furnishing was correct.
it
and
the
The fourth phonecall was received
at ar:;92roximately"5:h5
P. 't.,
Friday, August
1
by the_
191+?at Whiflh time the caller
Z5.-_.
19A?
disc
would verify
in
was definitelrshfit downand that if he
¢°1'1t5
-"'-T
~¢'°@d
Intelligence
- III, officers they wouldnot denyit.
.
was
Tacoma,
inwhich
thecaller
stated
was prior to the release of the dead officers'
names by Army authorities
the caller
call v-es
reCeived
bythe
-. -. ~
it
August l,
fragments
and
that
the
dead
officers
were
Captain
DAV1TI'JEC
and
Lieutenant
A
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Intelligence
2
Officers
atHamilton
Field,
California.
This
call
which C8-11the caller stated the
B--25
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stated that there was
a meeting taking place at that time in room
502
of the Tfinthrop Hotel concerning
the disc fragments found on Maury Island.
The second call was received between
that the B-25 which crashed
a
,?.
-call T-ELS
to
a
.3. 1.1., July 31, in which the caller
at
5:30 P.?i.bythe
asirs-
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Ta'cr>ma,"between
11:30
J-.."., July31, 1%?
lhe first
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2, 191$.
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at 5:33p__v_
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wasshot down from the air with
8 20 I11-HM
Cal -Flora;
that the Marine olane found recently on ?.'t.
R.-J,in_ier
had also
been
Shoig
down
and
th tqwould betaken
toBright
Field
Tuesday
7} 1%? in-. vs-.,.,_ merning. .'."hen
the Armyauthorties releasedthe names
of the deadIntelligence
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j1fl¢@I"§_1'~'hich
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-- that they actually started
the flying disc story and their actual part in the story. United Airlines pilot
states
that on
July 31, 19!-.7, both related their
original flyig
disc fragment story. Information
gathered would indicate that
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were
the flying
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disc story to the point where they could
make
order to build
aprofitable
and information
gathered,appears
it
ishe
probably
the most
likely ti _.
f' have
made the anonymous calls. The detailed interviews of the persons con c-
ted
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regard tothis flying disc story
are_being_ set out.'below._
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' The following'investigation
conducted
wasSpecial.-Agent
by
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Tacoma, Yfashington
on August
es, :>,lam
-season,
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advised thatin the
ear
part 0June, l?L.7he
was requested by
the Seattle
from the
r-per wnshinzton.__Ihe_s.tory_uas_sup;.>osed
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on
that .-while
astory
which he was informed had been obtained
_stated that
to have
a
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the story__wasto the effect
patrolling in his boat near MauryIsland, saw five or six p
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flying
discs,"
oneof
whichfluttered
towardthe ground
andefinally
disintegrated.
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boat in
cansing
some
damage
ki his
and
-dog. 'qstated
that
went
he
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him this
on flying
disc story.
He stated
thatas
best
he appeared
could
recall,
this
A,:Ye
stories had
in the paper
it
the early
part of
June.
He
stated
thattook
him
in
the
kitchen
and
proceeded
to
talk
about
this
flying
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disc story in low muffled tones.
He stated thst acted rather
suspicious "
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was Just a few days after
the first
flying disc
-_ and was on aSunday evening. He
believed itwas
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in
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of
the
story
to
_-Chicago
Illinois.
facts
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have
been
develo
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fi
tel
rove
that
*1»:-zde
these
calls
however,
from
all
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shortly his
his admit
wife came
into
the kitchen
and was in aconsiderable
rage,
that the
snti story
was aplain
fantasy which
he had
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and
should
be inno
way,
carried
as
anews
story
and
refused
to@11
any information regarding these repOI'ts.
He further stated that he advised
the
Boise
Statesnan shortly before, or at the time
left Boise
to come to Tacomato check on the flying dies eta;-lee 192_rj__i;.h_
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Washington,
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paper
which first issued
a
story
on August
2
and subsequentstories intimating that the B-25 which crashed at
P""..
Kelso, Washingtonon the early mornin.g.ofAugust1, had beensabotagedor shot.
downbecauseof the fact that it carried flying disc fragments. »st-ated
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that on Thursday, July 31, at approximately 11:30 A. H. he received an anorgrmous
phonecall in which the caller stated that_and
ArmyIntelligence
officers were meeting in room 502 of the ffinthropHotel to check on the flying
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and when he picked
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turned around to speak to his editor
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hone
Hestated
thatthe
caller asked
for
who
was
out
atthetime
ofthecall He
. stated
room 502 in the
furnish
no information
that on Frida*
Jinthrop Hotel
and
he
e
was ad vised
as he was there
on
a
Au ust 1, between 11:00 A. H. and noo
hereceived
another
phone
callfor&in
which
theanonymous
caller
stated "that he might have saneinformationfor him. _asked
the caller if
he was not the same party that had called the previous date and he said yes.
The
caller
inTm,
then related that at that momentthere was
a
big meeting in progress
502,
intheWinthrop
Hotel;
that
thes-25
which
crashed
that
morning
Kelso was carrying flying disc fragments from California and that
.
!!cChord Field officials
had stated the plane was sabotaged or shot down. ,The
caller then hung up after making some statement to the effect that he was
a
'
switchboard operator. .stated
that he went to the Winthrop Hotel on Friday
about noon and found that there was no male operator on duty.
He stated he then
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stating
that
were the Inte igence
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Captain
DAVIDSON
and '
were killed
in
the
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Lieutenant Btu.»
officers that
crash
of
that civilians
and the
sheriff had
been
kept
away from
Anny guarding
it. He
stated the
anonymous caller
then
had not been released
yet by
the Army and that
this
would
the B-25
the wreckage
said that
and
with the
the names
verify his
statements.
wstated
that the
following
morning,
Saturday,
2,
.- nigust
the
Lrmy
.sr1 ied
that the
officers killed
were Captain
DiVIDSON and Lieutenant BECAII
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and two days later
verified
stated that
the anonymous
caller
his b
that
name,
and at
this
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they
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then asked if the
said yes,
the caller
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anonymous caller
stated that,
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nee offic
ers IIIIIIII
.1ling
calling
"Don 't
m
doing
r
story had been put on the wire and v:hen_
stated, "We
want this
to
get
back to
New Jersey."
The
caller further
stated that
the B-25
was shot
down by a 20 m.m. cannon
and
that
the marine
nlane which
was recently
found wrecked
on the
side of
t. Rainier,
been missing
for several
months, he}
also been
shot down.
lhc caller
tzving
to nth-at
he shouldget in touci. witha flyer named -with
ikited
.-lirlhnes
who,
he
stated, was with _92~'h@I"1 they Wire $11011 at
stated
over Montana.
The caller
then stated,
"I'll see you Tuesday.
I'm goin to
Fan Francisco." stated that
he had checked with
United Airlines
any pilot
who denied
knowi
ever hav'
C, I
hi
by the
of
name odenied
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over lontana. tated that
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call the
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were army Intellig
again later
contacted
time
stated
he did not call
anonymous
call in
which the
Field on
luesday and
caller stated
that °aturday
cceived another
7:
that ould
one of
the men
be sent
who found
to
fragments of
l"ht
the
fl" inc Qiscd
was to be flo»n to
Alaska
bated hut
in view
of
tie fact
the
t h.trinformation
as to the Intelligence
officers on
the B-25 had been as
Y
@:rnishe
'
d
by the anonymous caller,
had subsequently been verified
by the Army,
the stor
was released that the
B-25 was carrying disc
fragments returning
to
Field, California
and furnishing
the inference
that the
plane had been
Hamilton
atedhome,
that
about 8:00
P. K.
on Sundail
August 3
this
sabotaged
or
shotdown. stated he had not given
any
story out
to the
Post
he
contacted at
lntelligencer
Seattle; stated
that he
had gotten
Seattle
at
which
time he called
in Eoise
and
when
and found
out it
was the
a telegram
to call
anumber
Boise Statesman,
he had
hung up.
He stated that the
Boise Statesman then contacted
he admitted he had seen the disc fragnents,
but that
he did
then.
This
QPublic
time _informed
3=1,5 P.->inr
, thing that
tine that
he and
l This time that
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-that
he
j that
knew about
left Boise,
him, at
not
take
had beenwith_
from LZcChordField, all
which tine
any of 1
afternoon until
about
he hadtold the Army authorities every-
the flying
Idaho and
disc fragments
story from
the
he had left Seattle,
Iuzhington.
there weresome ofthe supposeddisc i'r:.j'92e
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him
after
lunch.
nstatedthat
about
noon
_and
if
M"-*=="
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c.-....awc..
him
=+
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which
.. :Jn92lllHme
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tat-ed
that
he
and
..
his
son.. had
been
_
exploring a gravel pit on Maury Island and found somestran e rock formations.
Hestated
they
picked upsome
ofthese
samoles
and
that
hlater
sawthemandtheywentbackoverto I»-Iaury
islandat
which timeadditional
sampleswere obtainedand tl1at
thesesent
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to a friend of his at--the
report
and
that
apparently
this
friend
had
asked
a newpapermao
to
find
out
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_t'nat
University
of
Chicago to have analyzed.
They stated that they received a
where the rock formations were obtained. Qt-r1d-told
sometime after the first flying disc story had appeared, they received
a
tele3.e
gram
from
Trans-Ocean
Press
from
Chicago
wanting
inf
ocnnation
on
the
flying
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that theyhadat notimeindicated--the
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rockformationswerea part of a. flying disc andthat Captain
were
and
not interested in the rock formationsand they denied
g_-tiiving
themto
furnished
='
cubstantial
lr5 the same in ormation that tee
obtained
fr0"1_
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a
received.
He stated
further
th regarding
the anonymous
phonecalls whichhe had
that
the first
call
he received
was on Friday,
_
August 1, at around 5:30 P. 1!. At this time the caller stated that the B-25
which crashed at Kelso, Washington was carrying disc fragments and that the
killed
were
two officers
Captain
Army A-_?Intelligence
material.
He stated
of the dead officers
DAVIDSON and Lieutenant
BRO!-I, officers
with
at Hamilton Field and that the fragments were top secret
the caller
indicated
it would verify
stated
that
when the Array released
that the information
the names
he was furnishing
was
.1-'.
correct.
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definitely
shot
down
and
that
if hecontacted
Army
Intelligence
A-2,
the
man
in char-_-;e
wouldnot denyit. w%
"tstedhethoughtthemansaidto con-* . -
6:A5 P. H. Friday,
that the second call he received at approximately
August l at which time the caller
stated that the B-25 was
tact Colonelbut it wasfoundout it wasColonelwhowas in charge
j_- F-'
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stated
thethirdcallhereceived
at 5:30
1".1-.:.,
ihzgust
2,
L? thepl8.n¬?.
of Army Intelligence
A-2. The caller further stated that the Sheriff's
Office
had
been allowed
near
had
been Kept
awe. i
from the cras h an
a d th t no ci vi liens
ll
anl that
this
time the caller
withCaptain ml
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stated
that
one of the men who had been rrinferring
_ .'.'é1S
trlcento Eilasica
that day. Qhacaller
further
stated that the B-25 was shot down from the air with a20
m.n1. cannon;
that the Karine plane found recently
on Lit. Rainier had also been shot down;
that Captain _v;ould
he
taken to .'.Field
ri;*_ht
Tuesdaymorninr:and that a
UnitedAirlines pilot by the nameof_flew
were shot at over I-Tontana.
- end would be back Tucsdoy.
The caller
stated
with Captain~.:hen
he was leaving
for
they
San Francisco
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Tacoma,W
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of ~the B-25 and he was informed that no investigation was being conducted
by
theSeattleOffice._at
thistimerelatedin a rambling
storythathef/;,
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hadpickedup somestrangerock formations
whichhe hadforwarded
to a friend / ~
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of
Chicago to
have
analyzed and that later, in some
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Tacomaresident agency office.
viewed at
the
denied aw "knowledge
of
howthe rock formations
which
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have alalvzed becameconnectedwith the flying disc stories. Both denied
makingamr statement to anyonethat these rock formations were portions of a
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the start
of
the interview that.a.nd
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nottelling
theircomplete
and
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withthef]y@
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or had done which caused them to becomeinvolved i1 a .¬'lyihg
disc story,
but
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sent
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of
bxglg-i Publishing
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Company
which
publish
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magazine
in Chicago
and$5;'f:E5tiYi+ei.ieg5e1ne
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somerock
formations
which
they
had
found
on
Maury
Island.
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stated
they
A
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sent
these
formations,
asking_to
have
them
analyzed.
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stated
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and askedfor moresamples,advising he had failed to analyze
the samples, stateJ..
they havenever sent any additional %ples
and that the next they heard re arding the rock formations which they had sent
have comefrom a flying disc.
stated he ma
e
some
~ could
have
comefrom a flying disc and that he immediately sat downand wrote
a letter towhichwasin the latter part of Junein whichhe stated
th t ial could avebeenportions
of
a flying disc. claimed that he
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contains
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stated that he and
to get his car and that
about
11:30
about 5.'
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were still
there and
neither seemedto be able to recall if -":us
in
room on F rida;r,
August l. The best that could be obtained from
and-es
to whet
took place in_
room was to the effect that most of the tell: was
about
Stated that wanted
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Hotel
Berry's
.'-.irport
at Tacomaand
to
Seattle wherehe oicl-ced
up ,. YI ! Captain*
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flying,
that no one seemed very interested
in the rock formations
they had no connection as far as they knew with any flying disc.
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about 1:00P.TI. They
stated
thattheyall left room about
in room
f-
of value
7:;
to obtain pictures of the place wherethe
rock formations
1-wereobtained
and that the Army Intelligence
appear to be interested
in any manner whatever.
officers
did
tas recently
been
not
.
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and that
Avenue
OP@I af»eS
Tacoma,
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1111 and
working
withhim,buying
timber. Theyhavealsobeenassociated
withthe
ratrol Association
at
,.-
drbor
Tacoma,Washingtonwhich furnishes patrol and te11ee*fse-/I,
tection to oarts of the harbor area which are not patrolled by Tacoma
police
JP Qher1ff's
officers.
Tacoma,
h
sshincton,
Army
serial
number- During
thewar
Eswas
a pilio!
and
it isbelieved
presently holds a Reserve Officer's
commission as a Captain.
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B-25
which
crashed,
andLieutenantseamof the tth dire Forces,C:J.ptain
killine
Captain
DAVIDSON
;.~2
Officer,
Hc Chord Field,
advised that this
an exhaust stack had burned out on the left
investigation
engine which
of the crash reflected
in turn caught the
left
broke off,
also broke off
tail.
wing afire
and that when the left
ting
it
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The plane at. the time of the crash was carrying Captain DAVIDSON,
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interview on
August 12, 191+ ? withCaptain
United Airlines
yreceived
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flying; discs
or similar
objects
obtained by
pilot: It
publicity for
on
July
1+, last
Special Agent
should be
noted
having supposedly
while on
aroutine
that
seen
United Air-
Jines flight
out of
Boise, Idaho
in company
with his
cmpilot
concerningincident.
this
Captain
-vstates thatthey took
off from
i>oise,é7
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43
Idaho at
F. - -| _
3:12 F.
YT. and headed
I-for-thwest
at 8,000 feet, co pil0t
sk ahead
of them
at__3O0 degrees and -while still cli'~ 1fT.n;;
-called his
about ten
attentior; to
degrees left
some objects in
the
which neither
one could
identify.
*states that hecalled
aCAAradio
operator at Ontario,
Cregon reques-and
ted hJ.m to step outside his
radio
shack
and see if he could see any of
objects overhead.
The CAA radio operator
replied in
the negative.
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.T'-ly
in the
5 offices of the v.'here
these
he first met on
both werebeing,
izterviewed concerning
their sighting
of fl_','i.ng
discs. -states
next met about
was on another flir-"ht
three
weeks
ago in Boise, Idaho at -.-zhich time he,
through Boise, Idaho and had a. ten minute lay-over there,
thrt he
n thisoccasion was in company
of Captain. .'ILLIAI'
and L}:fi:
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from callin"
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was on
ursriay,
Taco
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' join him as he was investigating a flying disc story
for
someone back
.ast"
be
intcrc;ste~ - in seei.ng.
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afternoon
at which time he asked .to
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come overto Tacc-maand
Tt;cr»: .?= and
-old
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fly overand pick
him up
at Boeing
j.i1-port at
b,:CO "J.
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Boeing Field at about l4.:OO P.
M. andthey flew to Berry : Airport
at Tacoma,
.'-Iashington
they were
metwhere
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of them
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the
story
in Tacoma. i! 1f02'1 .'.ed-n.t
th:'-..
ti-.1ethat
after receivingthis letter he hadcalled_by
telephonein Chicago
as a result
of
whichcall_had
forwarded
him51200.00
expense
money
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for coveringthe story. Shortly thereafter .1 at about 7:30
_ _ P. "._
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arrived at the Hotel roomand the discussion beganamongthe
four
menpresent
.
as
o ,0 what had
seenon iiaury
Island;
professedreluctance to tell the story, claiming that several unfortunateincidentihai
occurred subsequentto his seeing the flying discs and he bclieved_the entire
incident
had brought him bad luck.
In this connection he stated 'tfour
n'st
or
five days subsequentto his sighting the flying discs, a man called at his
homeand had a conversationwith him the course
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stated that his sixteen year old sonhad run awayfrom home
following
theincidentandhad
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up
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he wouldnot discussthe matter for at least two wsens.
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'1'-h
previously
told
his
h-'i.d
storyto8,
."-.t
this point
related the incident which has already been descri"-:=c:1
and
which
he alleged had taken place on or about June
23
incidentmientioned
or 21
that he hadtakenpictures
of
should
Ifhile relating the
the flying disc vhioh
hehad
seen
butthattheprinted
films
were
marred
with
white
spots.
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hadconcluded
his
story,
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hehad
gone
the
followin
him concerningthe fragments
day o 1-IauryIsland to verify wh
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that he also sawone
of
this time related
over the Island but that it -haddies earedinto a cloud. .'.l:en.r.-nd
cad
finished
tellingtheir
story
atold
the
group thathehade.-".1-lier
in
that evening called Captain D.".VID5OI92T
and Lieutenant BRO-'.i
ArmyIntelligence
u -,
officers and that
they
were on their way to the Hotel room. At this point
his
story
protested that he did not wish to tell
before anyone else and he
.went
there
oe
when
they
arived.
then
left
the
room
and
downstairs.rgeparted
a
one.
droveback
to
Boeing
Fiel
near Seattle 1'."he'
desired to pick
up
his ownpersonalcar, whichhe old.
Theythen returned to the Hotel wherethe '
foundCaptain
DAVIDSON
and Lieutenant
"%P.O'.i1-J
in
room
502
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met
them
at
the
door
and
seem
_ excited, explainingto
hat CaptainDAVIDSON
had just drawna reproduction
wasadvisedby:
that
if
suchwasthe case1.-:h idn't
he just leave andnot
of a freak disc which-had supposedlybeen seen
by
a womanin Arizona and that
this dr.a'.'.'ing
wasan e;<;-let
reproductionof the flying disc whichuni,
seen several
weeks
before,
nearing Mt. Rainier.
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_sc-emed
very
anxious
totellisand=
story
had
states that srho tl yU "" ter
tothe
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offi-
cers.Before
thiswas
done,
however,
had adiscussion
with
Lieutenan
.". O..'?!,
infonniinpg
himthat theyhadpromised not to releasethe stcryfor
1_?..1
Weeks
andthat if :-:ere
allowedto tell the storv
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Island
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and""!*
DH-'IDFTOT
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SE1j.
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in anster to a query from
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he
uno
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Lieutenant
Cnotain
of
the
opinion
1* _
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agree with them.
BIIUJN and D. .- ID.30N
then held a brief discussion as to whether
they should return that same night to Ilamilton Field and they decided that
they would.
All fivc of the men then
detached himself from the group and entered
a
phone booth to call for 2. ca
sometruth in the currentflying disc stories,
but that their immediate superiors presumablyA-2 at Hamilton Field! did not
went
down
tothelobby
where
2?-Rf.
I-I
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from IIcChordField.
also
left the groupand.'.".<3t
anon: outside the p?"_:_=:92
booth 1.'here
they held a short discussion relative to the credibility
story. £{{o.n-I
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he shouldattemtto find
out if the story was on the level and that BIlO..lI would call him the following
then proceeded to the front of the Hotel
day regarding this matter.
The
group
at which time wrought
his trunk
his car to
a hox of the alleged
flying
the
front
of
the
Hotel
disc fragments picked
up
and
took
from
on Iziaury Island.
He offered
them to BHOJN and DAVIDSON
and when the Army car arrived
from I.?cChord
Field the box of fragments was placed in the car with the officers.
denarted
alone and
_
went
--"in
search of :o.=nethinr-'
Q
$4 to curt and later
returned to the Hotel for the night.
from informing
01;.-'.
believed
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OnFriday morning,Augustl, 19b7,-1-eceived
a call
himthat a B-25hadcrashed
duringthe nightandit wase
to be the same lane which BROTJIand DAVIDSONwere flying.
Fo owing
thiscall-and&came totheHotel
room
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from
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previous
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conversations and the fact that DAVIDSONand .'3BO'..'TY
were believed
tohave
been killed.
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to discontinue his investigation of
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took
if
heucould
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any
linht
on
the
unableto saywhatg
replytonnes.
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asked
lowing
these
telephone
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he
ident
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eifies as a personal friend of his and an
8';-tatcs
that he hadpreviously
made
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with
should he ever run across any flying
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of the
called
and wke
to imonthe
telephone
to give out any information.
further relates that while
the. four men were in
the
room at this
time,
door and that he retrieved it from the iloor.
of this envelopeseemed
to startle.
an envelope was shoved under the
states
that tho appearance
considerablyandthat in fact,
turned white as a sheet untilread the
note
unsigned which was a communication to the Hotel advising that a strike of Hotel employees was eminent and
h lo nger .
that guestsshouldnot expectroom
and'
telephone
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after this
identieft
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HenryIsland the following mOI nln-,Saturday!. _
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by
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requested
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to
go out andcall himfroma pay station. complained andwas
informed
bpthet
two
anonymous
telephone
calls
had
been
received
by
him that a discussion regarding flying discs had been taking place in room 502
Winthrop Hotel which involved JennyIr.tel1.ig,ence officers.
information w'nic'nii'1ad
received,ii- was
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convincedthat the anonymous
" caller must have been present at the discussion also, as.'was seemingly
in possessionof pertinent remarkswhich had beenmadein the room.
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th a t he did not give.n.ny
oion of the call,
'and th
t a
further infomation
in
conclu-
he returned to the Hotel room and he and_>retired
for~
the night.
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phone call
further
inf
at 2:30
redeiveda tele-
111 Chicago, but was unable to give him any
him, however, that he would call
him baa"
calledfroma coffeeshop
nearby
and
an unknown man in the Coffee Shop for
P8rson was discussing
.
somelumber business 'th-
and
left afterbreakfast.
Onleaving
-the
coffee
BhOp,.&$k8& about
f th e flying
negatives of the photographs which he claimed to have taken
o
discs.said thenegatives
were
in theglove
compartment
of hiscar,by es
a search
oftheinstant
glove
compartment
was
fruitless.The
fourthen
pr /
and
the
ceededin-s
-' the y were to embark for Iiaury
car to the dockthere
The boat, however, could not be started and the trip
in the day.
'"hile
at the dock, however, .aeked
to
to the boat which had allegedly
Island
was postponed until later
be shown the damage
occurred when the fragments showered down on
.
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hta may have been repairs to the windshield
_ Maury Island. pointcd
ont 1':
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b
t
but
mas
not _
personally satisfied that these repairs
and lights on e ca ,i
l
-. were madeas a result of any such incident. then
drove
them
'
hand-back
to the 1-Ictol at approximately lO:I+5 R. M. and.to1»d
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Jinthrop Hotel. -ctated that
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,- W?
the przrposeof this meeting wasto try
to
find outsomething more
about
the
anonymous phone
calls whichhad told
him about,
He
~
and still
refused to give out any further information
regarding theThursday evening
conference toend were
informed bythat the nwas afraid
of being
scooped
on
the story andwas going
to print something onthat
day.
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returned to -h-1 hotel
the ca_llwas
cut off by the switchboard operatorsince it was notan
emergency ca-ll.
and then
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returned tothe Hotellobby vshere
theyfound
e.
tele_¢jram"from
-asu:|.ng them
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him
at either
Broadway orProctor _is
sure of the exchange..>alled this
states that
.3;,
- Y"to
then
he went
number, but x."as not
Unlon
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T
egle ra
the Hestern
acollecttelegram tomat
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and _then
and shortlythereafter receivedaphone cell from but
brief resume of the
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wire _a
the éwhich
not
and dispatched
contained
a
incidents '.'.hich
had occurred and which requested to
telephone numberv:here could
states that
hOffice
there.
he has never
received
an
answer
be
reached
after 6:00 P. II.
to that
wire. Following
this, states
that
he and
athatent<.red"and
he and
_r:ere
sittingofthe
in
the C'l;nnpi.c
{Total when
gave thezr. each ct;
the
lobby
of
F.
latest edition
in the
crash of
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of the
T£;.CO:!!=". Tiizeswhich
the Army B 5 which killed
contt
inecl
:.; story llinting; an
sabot
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Captain D. .VID3CI=T and Lieutenant
BIC 1.".
stated thathe and
continued
to
occupy
seats
inthe Hotel
lobby
they were
unable to
receive calls
in the
Patel.
most of
the afternoon
inasmuch as
room due to the
Hotel employees
."'5
strike.
he
relates
in the late afternoon from _advising;
" -:30 as-had further
that he
received
him to call th't
acall
evening at
information regardingthe anonymous
calls. also
1-.~ceive'd
ct¬.-l ::_"jra.'n
requesting thathe ca1_'L uhic n he did ".*.:.r7 founi
7gm.
u._=.t
';:as_Of
it
the He thereafter,
refund
ts give goalie
any
further
infon.1ationia.t
this tine.
However,
shortly
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from Boise and advised_that the
Army hadreleased astory
through Prigarlier
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on theplane?" and
answered, "Yes, they were."I- ollovn'.ng this
-_1;»
£'.:.d
engaged
been on.
In viewof this release, requested
ca} led
as per his earlier
request and was infomed that "f
had received another anonymous phone cell at which time
the
5.;nr:y B-25 carrying Captain
_"..'. ID3CI"I
Lieutenant
and
2?.C
s-i '1
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which was,
do=.-in with 20 ..""...'n.
shells and
also been
that _w;oulc1
shot down
_d.
that the
with 20
this information
an;-:
alleged disc
Ifazrine plane
m.m.
shells.
fragments
the
v: ice"
had
found oz;
"t.
we
on
to
The voice
be called back to liright Field
'.:.=l-Zedhewhy
vzas piving out
not for
that the
"L-. ere they carrying any
to
for him
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one question
Iaxinier had
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confidential assignment
on Tuesday. Then
the caller
replied that
it
the benefit
of the newspapers, but that he was interested
in
seeing es
information got
back to ew Jersey.
The voice also informed
't
time that
one
L» -> "hi"
Cihtr
of the two persons who had.been talking to and
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decided
to
find
out
or
if
_ha¢1
left
t0
J11.
oca
e
lit
._ at,-the Junset
Theatre
an
came to hOtel and
met and ?
- ihad
now left
for Alaska.
As aresult
of this
latter bit
of infdhmutior.
=1
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! unable
to
t<5 1
locate
yphone and left saying
that .~.ewould
try to
find where
out
was
and
he
thatwould
call them
tomoiow
S
and that
they would
go out
to Maury
Island at
-12
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that time.
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press releases and had a discu;
mous
phone
calls.
nameof P-{ajor
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Public Relations Officer at
Augustl9
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them
'i'hcr~
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Following
thisdiscussion
with
at
ishich
lime
tates
they
stillrefused
todivulge
any
_£'m1rt
information,
andé7C
.aer
returned to the Hotel for the night.
,
n
On Sundaymorning,August3, 191$?
, -appez-ired
rv
f3?
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Hotel roomandtold themthat he hadreceiveda. letter from which
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in effect
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a letterwithhimbuthedidnot
show it to or-
house
in SouthTacoma
and
Thethreementhendroveto_secretary s
picked her up and the four of them then went to breakfast on the South Tacen;
'- ighuay.
jfnile the
four
and called I.fa_jor.at
of the.-nthen went to breakfast
excused
Es i
to
k.
the
Hotel.
day and he replied
entire
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business
eyasked
himif hewas
going
totakethem
tonaury
island
the 7
that he was not.
and that
if
He further
stated that {.8 was sick of the
he was ever contacted
by the
Anny or the authori"ins
he was going to deny ever having seen anything and claim to be "the biggest liar
ever
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in the lobby
car to
a
and they went in
nroceeded to tell Major
rd occurred in Tacoma regardin
coffee
shop in South Tacoma xncre
the entire story of the incidents which
' IL.rcd~ ay
the
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' s t oi,~v since
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'afternoon.
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him
to that
duced
0t %
gg andsu ested
entirestoryof wat hadoccurred.did
s
at the fragments
.';hlCh
were still
in the room suggested that they
the Smelter near Tacoma as he believed the slag at the Smelter
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resemblance to these fragments.
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intro-
healsotell "a_jor
t':"
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so. iiajor
after looj-zing
drive out U-.2
oe_.r a
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L.
Li. ,,
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tn. ';lc=_;'
arusnotedtc.bede nitely si ~¢'lar
to the fragments.'hIlc'
and had
"left in the iictel room. i'he_;:
than rct92.1rncd
to the -hotelroomand
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an appoint.";1er~t
to me-w
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at
the
Hotel
lobb;
at
11:00
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then
tool-cvsecretaqy
toher
home
where- icked
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upatypewriter
and
then
drove and
-1-lack é C
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7.
said
I'll
be out of town for three or four
"Take care of my business.
days." had
<.1.
,c_
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at the
irport
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c ing tteir bars tour:
where his pl ne was oar./ed and t ien
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...
himself back lo Scrttle.
drew
his arrival
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in
-qeattle,
which was
Q-3,
with
approzzimaifely
7:30 1'.
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the
aopeared
at home
_- in Boise,ldahoin the hoiseIltatesman
andwhichwaswrittenby
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containing:
V the
JSpZ.p¬I
Associated
Press
story
which
had
ori;-_in:;tc
_aJmission
.I
to him that fraeenents had been carried
CaptainD1.VIDtJU?-I
onthe fatal .3-2&5:
flight. in
7
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this t1..'.'lC
continue-.;
to
refuseto give anystatements
for the Pressandtold_
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by Lieutenant
that he ;..'
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all of
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Federal Bureau
to the
,§
incidents in
-
Portland, San
advised by
the
M
by
this
T
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if
was "setting
that,-
there
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for h1.rn"-
forth
er
7c
Tacoma from
Thursday
afternoon, July
31, last
until Sunday
3, last.
Acopy
of this
deposition is
now in possession of
the
writer '
Copies of this communication are being sent to the Butte,
Francisco and Chicago Offices for their
information only.
Unless
Bureau to the contrary, instant investigation
is considered closed
Intelligence Officer,
IvIcCho-rd Field, Ft. Lewis, Washington advised a the weekly
O.N.I.-S.I.D.-F.B.I. Intelligence
conference that the Public Relations Officer
1,,
at Hc hord Field had received atelephone call from
an
individual at
Army Air pI
Forces Headquarters
at liashington, D. C.,
during
he had no additional
in
this
matter and
Special Agent
bash? r92o!lD _
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San
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Z Chicago
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that he
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£21:uitco"
B.
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information
'- Vary
truly
yours,
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the
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was obtain
tosigned
a
statement
fI Om "hi¢h further
could
be
published and thus publicly
close the matter. Captain
not handle
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a couple
Field and asked him
office.
related that
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jrstated that
For the
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of
the Bureau, Captain?
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and is being forwarded herewith to the Bureau. It should be noted that this
t
deposition is in
no
way as complete as the statement taken by
the
writer above
and any
setting
out of this deposition
in this communication would
be
superfluous-
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advises that on Friday, August 8, 19147, heappeared before I-awyer_
at the County--City Building, Seattle and made a deposition of
the
facts relating
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in the
callednat '1icChord
pwai iny
recent
information
the
informed
that
him
_1adconcerning
not incident.
yet
been contacted
but that
the £
iv
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his information
of days later he
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did
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I
received
a telephone
call
from Tacoma from
a
The
gistofthisconversation
was
thathethoug
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t would
be
a good idea for me to some téc 'i a_£mq_and
listen
to the
b7C
story
or
two
men
whose
names
we;-e
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This ahead
met two times previous - once on 3'uly
at the office
or the P.I.
in Seattle
tor a very brief
time and the
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the phone,
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made tl
statement that it would be impossible for me to go over to Tacoma
due to my going out to Salt Lake City the next morning.
He said
that he
would
fly over from Tacoma "d
-ick
me up at Boeing Field
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I agreed
tothis
proposition
troma
M
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Ilanded not
7C
and
wenewback
and
Barry&#
Airport.
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100 feet
"5!
there
in diameter,
was a hole
circular
the
in shape, and it
center
of
appeared that
each as he could
see the
sky
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12.,
through this hole.
He also mentioned that on the inside
of the
I
negligible
astheyappeared
to hover
overa given
egot. One
or
circle
that
speed was
er
or the hole,
portholes
were visible.
these objects appeared to be in trouble.
over and appeared
to
make contact.
Atter
1
"is
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approximately
11.5.
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two minutes, itrose
At this
7;
seemed to throw
to its
time the object
a lot
of
debris
that
tron
Their
Another
o
Ject came
making this contact tor
original
appeared
position.
to be in trouble
one oi
the
port-holes.
Sc me ot
this
debris
objects then disappeared tron view.
landed broke in the wheelhouee or the boat,
;,.
These
that
the spotlight,
and
theklaxon.While
thisdebris
wasfalling,
my
boyandHr.Q
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got off the boat and hid under some logs.
This debris that
e
killed
our dog and a sea gull.
I
ashed Hr. _whnt
was done wit.
the dog. Be made the statement they threw the dog into the water.
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went
out
This
story
was
toldtoMr.Q
who
thenextday
.
this Island
to check on this s cry.
He verified
the
to
C tact or the damage
to the boat,also to the tact that thereappear
7 tobequ
itf
ea
' _ralso
2 iecesof eitherrock
or
metalonthe_shore.
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state d that
Maury Island,
he was investigating
a
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there
investigating
on
This disk was or the same shape
.
Mr.
stated
tor he asto thereas
tah t
The g st of this letter
letter from Mr. land
h e receiu-'
was that 2.-Ir.
also
a
lira
or these fragments that were found on iiaury island.
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this story.
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over
at thispointiir. gels;-itied
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he also saw a disk.
and contour as the objects explained by rir.
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statement
in
the
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the letter
that
Chicago
. was
sent_awestern
Union
e es
fra
ents and that would an-. I
varsity
failed
to analyze tn
.
please investigate the story.
Mr
check for $290.90 to take care 9! any Bree-H86 that he mieht 141011;
_.while making this investigation.
MI; _had
made a telephone call to Hamilton Field
t
contact
a
Captain Davidsonand
a
Lieutenant Brown,whowere with
asking them would the" make
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listen
tothis
story
or andq a
A-2 intelligence
at Hamilton Field,
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to
field,
time
pick
up
Seattle.
I mde
the
the'
hotel
room
to
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some metal
that
n Maur y Island
the hotel room. lir._
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fa ~;;-_._
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o get
do
departed.
statement
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to Mr.
was
to
in
that
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me at Boa ng Field,
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to Tacoma
andI drove
myownca?backto Tacoma.
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put
my
car
in
the
garage
at
Tacoma
wen
up
to
the
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the
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that
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getting
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again
all
facts
of
until
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sandwiches and coffee.
stories
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released
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these
Mr
only his own story
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both officers
statement
that
take
back
to
the
thought
Brown
would
be
had told
all
of Hr.
he
as to whet they
he would
Hamilton
At this
Hamilton
supposed
when Lieut.
and Lieut.
Brown came back, the
mane a statement
hold
in
strictest
that
confiden:
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like
to
the facts,
thought.
relating
asked for the
opinion
Lieut.
obtain
some of
Davidson
and Lieut.
stay
night
not
Brown made the
these
fragments
to
Field..
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whether
Field immediately,
to be at Hamilton
to
over
in
Bro-an were debati
Tacoma
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leave
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from
information
he received
the two men in the ship were oapt.
plus
Hr. _and
a flight
and a hitch-hiker.
engineer
myself
also
verified
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hotel
_
After an hour or so Mr. _and
room with
a plan in mind of the four
morning Saturday!
for breakfast
'i'hat
evening Friday!
linileft
the
of us meeting
the neit-
and going out to Maury Island.
there was a message tor me to call
this particular
telephone number that was on the message.
I calla
this number and was asked by the
art
to please call them from a
pa stat on.
p
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Thisartywas
a Mr
3
onthe_
Hetold
me
"I most
certainly
am
do!gmyself
outof
go
story but I thoughtyououghtto knowthat somebody
hasbeenoalli
taken "place in your room since you arrived."
repeated
taking
either
in
of all
To verity
back to me discussions that I felt
place
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both
e two Intelligence
officers
had lett
in last
night.
Mr.
then again called
licChord Field
and talked
to a Colonel
d the fact was verified
again that the two pilots
were
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left
a very bad state of concern. Approximate
this paper and giving us a blow-by-blow description
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ly
anhour
laterMr.
& wasn't
and
Mr. madetheirappearan
in
the hotel
room.
I still
sure that this was the same B-25
K
t
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at approximately
'8
o'clock
in the
our hotel
room and acquainted
us
crashed.
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had only been
our room.
lir._also
made the statement that there was e leak
from the switchboard
operator
or our room had been tapped.
I asked
Hr.Qwhy hewas
tippisngu oft with
this
information.
Hemadethe sta amentthat__he_
didnztminddoingthis iilinhreturn
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this
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with
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went
back
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room
an
told-Hr. what
took place on
e
Saturday
morning:
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h£r._pand
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break1'astWe
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8:30 that evening. He told me that
had again
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and said
that one
of theparties that
Mrband
Mr. asked
I an
Anlnn Qt
that this
This anonymous
fnn hhn
this person
calling
caller
made
nawnnannrn_ A11
!.nformation_gets back,to
Tam
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what his
intnvnnhn In
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New Jersey."
After I finished the
conversation with
thug I
caller.
b7¢ anonymous
by me
or
Min-
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and said
if I wouldcall
him
have some
over to
the
United
Press and
talked
with
MP
and
read back
to me
the conversations
that he
he ad
with this
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interest was.
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was shot
down.
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he would
ment
Mr.
qould
be
called to
Wright Field
Tuesday. This
anonymous cal er made the statement to Hr. -that this
B-25
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Mr- called up
that evening,
b75, Ihad come
downsee
to was
flown
to
Alaska.Also
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were voiced
eithe:
Bunday morning
I called
a Meierof B-2 l c hord
field and
as1ced'him meet
to
me at the
Winthrop Hotel
at 11 o'clo
I met this najo
at llo'clock and we drove to
n small
cor:
shop the
on_Tacoma
Elghway where
thisWinthrop
complete
storywhere
was
related
1
then drove back tthe
Hotel
Major
him by me. We
was
introduced
to
Mr. by me and again
listened to
l e Mr.
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the
Winthrop
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n ep
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have
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failed
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star
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rock _fcnaations
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sent e box icigar!
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Venture in-3532126
at nvanston
£111
analyzed.
and as!-ted for ed-Titionel samplesstating that
he
later .-"wrote
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of these i :r'a;_;:r.ents
to Q01
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of June e 1.;-':
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contacted
the first disc stories
.
us by phone. He told us not to tell the news
be papersetout the fragments and he would pay for an exclusivestory
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the i rag::.e-nts could be from a flying
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disc.
Justafter our phoneconversationewrote
£7C
letter to
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getting;
out
some
notes
etc.regard
ng
. ag!.
indicating
they could have come from flying
discs.
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Hess
telegram
from
Chicago
asking
anabout
these
tlyingé
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disc
gragments.
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toldthem
togorget
theentire
matter.
The
next
we
heard
oi
these
fragments
was
when
we
were
celled
by é;71¢
meet
withhim
in the'.-Hotel
iinthrop
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we sent to be analyzed.
and true
story
as regards
our connection
with
nated ow-erthe ore ear.-.pleswhich
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be advised
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advised that
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facts
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Richards, aviation
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and Lieutenant
Frank
HiXBrown
of the
Fourth
Headquarters,
AAF interviewed
Francisco,
San
Portland on Ju
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27, 19h?.
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Ihrtland they
Dick
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experienced
afonnation
that Davidson
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pilot, who
of ten
flying discs
and Brown had also
"pilots whowere among
the first
had reported that he observed, on June lh,
over Bakersfield,
interviewed the
California. Richards
added
following four
experienced
ness
rline
the
to report seeing discs, Kennethi rnold, bnsi
irom Boise,
Idaho; Captain
E. J?§Smith,
a co-pilot;Ralph§Stevens, United
Ai
and DaveRJohnson,
aviation editor, Idaho"Statesnan." In order to determine
fa»
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editor of the "Oregonian," hasstated that Captain WilliamLgdbavidson
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concerning newspaperreports of flying discs
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purpose of
tiese interviews
Richards contacted
Hajor General
Twining of'$right Field
Ohio, and from him gained the impression that the AAF instituted this
investigation_
to wash out the disc_reports since they are definitely not
of AAF origin.
On Friday, August l,the
plane in
Davidson and Lieutenant Brown,
were flying,
which AAF investigators, Captain
crashed at Kelso, Washington
and both
were killed.
The wreckage was screened
by RAF Intelligence from
McChord Field.
that
The "Tacoma News Tribune"
and through
them toe United Press
put
out astory
the plane
was carrying
parts of
adisc
which
had
struck aboat
wned by
Farold
Dahl and Fred Chrisman.
It has
also been
inferred that
this plane
was sabotaged
to prevent
these disc
parts from
being examined.
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not carrying
parts of
the Bureau
adisc
has reflected
and there
appears
to be
that this
plane was
no substantiation
defi
of a
charge.
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-> 13*;-p
forth
in
crash. No
your further information there is attached a blind
memorandum
more detail
the results
further inquiry
of the
is being
investigation surrounding
made in this matter.
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greens whowere alleged to have seenflying discs.
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DISCS
Hi
a boat
had struck
owns db
whichwasallegedly carrying parts of a. disc which
y Harold
Dahl and Fred Chrisman had crashed on August
when interviewed
by Bureau Agents,
advised in
19147,that in the early part of June,
a
gravel pit on iiauri
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up
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tomake
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rock
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2 .uring
thelatter partof June, contacted them
bytelephone
saying
hewould _
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payfor an exclusivestory if the materialsthey hadsenthimwerefragments
of
Fnd re:n-rked that
a few
days
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al
material as being
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id he wrote_a _
letter in wgch he representedthe
part of a flying disc, and bot
and
admitted
that
this statement
was
entirely
false.
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andthen
h-
received
a callfrom
one ___
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Boise, ldaho who requested them to meet him at the 1|-=
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ocome
and possibly the
from them regarding the flying disc
On July31 andAu;~_;u:st
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total
of
received by and
giving information
-at
fragments.
57¢
five anonymous
calls were
Tacoma
mg the
at Winthrop
Hote the
er discZ
regarding the meet
the
1
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fragments and
stating that the B-25had beenshot down
or
sabotaged which
killed Captain Davidson and
Lieutenant Brown,inferring that this was done
lli
nce
officers were
carrying disc
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these calls
could
fragments in their plane.
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to Chicago
Times through
thisE
friend. édenied making
calls.
these
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statedthaty
reporter of the
Tacoma
'
Times and Ithe in Tacoma
had informed
him that
had
several
anonymous
calls
and
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that they
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The belie! that the crash was that or the unreported o+25. lhc Passenger,
Sgt. R. L. IAF?, of PT. LAWIOS, 3HiiTLE, ens uninjured, but reported that
th° 07¢? "hilt. T/33%.
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to alocal
hospital.
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Sq. Bat
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answer
was received;
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was known that HAHILIOH AFS wasaware of the incident
and
would notify
Sq. B.
At 070a PST Capt. LITTRELL departed in e C-45
for
KHLSO. At 0746 PST Sq Bres
contacted by phone and given a flush report.
At 0905 PST CAPT LITTPELL phoned and informed that he hnd placed CLP?AIH
PGRJBERG
in
charge
of Army personnel proceeding
to the scene of the crash.
search was
necessary as
civilians in
the
area
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tho exact
location or
the
crash and had reported finding one
! body
in the wreckage.
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for nedionl
attention, arriving
at 0945 P37. The survivors stated
that
they believed
neither the
pilot nor
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pereohuted Iron
the
plane. The
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was at this time
determined to be a fire
in the left engine.
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was infcrneo ey 5;t. IAFF that he
believed classified
documents had
boon aboard
the plane;
was instructed
to take necessary precautions.
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C$FT F3?3BLEG
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took than to the hospital.
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power
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nsr¢:1o helped tho pilot and cc-pilot attach their
cheat packs all persennel had been nearing the harness! and as he
left
the plane one annrc that
on-pilot
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and not
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he kicked and struggled
and eventually
jumped to the ground,
receiving ajolt
on impact but as
unable to guess
hoe for
he had
fallen. He
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! miles
to a fern house, arriving erter
cleared the
and burn.
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see the plane strike
the ground,
explode
at the
tine of
impact he
sew an object
but did
not know whether it
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in a
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was nperson
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CommandingOfficer HCGHOED
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transported by the HA3HI§GTJHSTATEPGLICEwho knew the exact location of
the plane 8°O9'H
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The ground party determined upon arrival
at the eoene,that too ! bodicewerein the wreckage.Indication: led to
the Belief
that tho cc pilot
was efirc
then Be left
the plane an instant
before impact.
The pilot :
romaine were found in the wreckage. Prelininery
inveetigeticn
by CAP? FQRSBERGdieclceed the plenee lert wing
about one hundredtwenty-five
25! yards from the widely eonttored port-
tione or the plane.
win; vat intact
The loft
and had rn;:r'nt1;
torn
off just outboardcf the left enginebeforeimpact. 1;; frrwrrd portion
of the wing stub was melted but the fukf two third! indicated {»ct
it
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ripped loose tron the inhcerd eeotic: of the wing. elhe uir: leading edge
not undamaged. The navigation and landing 1i;hte'irre
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it in believed the wing ripped from the airplane juet lfter
abandoned the plane. The resulting spin thue prevented the remaining
' crow membere from bailing
out although the cc-pilot
may have been in the
hatch.
_1 few civilians
were in the area when CAPT FORSBERGarrived
and he took precaution:
to prevent then from disturbing
the nrcckege.
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Background
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was Jointly
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which had been
sighted
and photographed
by Rhodes.
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in the
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contained
facts relating
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referredabove,
to
been
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superiors and
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matter. According
3.,
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Office.
representative atPhoenix, Arizona,
has requested
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complete
are to be subsequently forwarded to
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MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION
For the
_.-' is
CONCERNING -
Breau's information,
several citizens
in the
community of
Alexandria, Louisiana,
have recently
reportedly seen
flying discs.
The Alexandria, Louisiana
daily paper
has carried
numerous articles
concerning this.
At arecent
meeting of the Young
Hens
Bsiness Club
in Alexandria,
amember suggested that
since
Alexandria,
Louisiana is
known as aconvention
the club should try
promoting a convention of
flying saucer
sears.
This
particular comment appeared in the Alexandria
paper and was picked up by the AP
lines.
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a member
of
the Young
Hens
Bsiness Club,
city,
advised
a
76
large
number
of
requests
regarding
convention
the
flying
of
saucer
sears
mar!
from
parts of the United States. l£r. states
that the interest of
the people
Special Agent
that since
is evidenced
flying saucer
by their
inquiries about
convention particulars,
seers and want to attend such a convention.
"This
gentleman
further advised
that in
they have
view of
received
stating they
the volume
are
of inquiries
coming in, it appears that the YHBCwill
have
to hire an employee to handle all
the correspondence. Itmight
be noted that he advised arepresentative
of the
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release,
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Air Force from Barksdale Field, Louisiana,
saucer conventio,
stating that
they are
has inquired
interested in
such
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were held.
as to plans of a flying
furnishing an
observer if
This information
is being furnished the
Bureau, as it is
possible such
an enterprise
may cause people to
falsify
that they
have seen flying discs
or flying saucers.
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might be made so that they
might attend
such a
convention or
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of the analysis which
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and which analysis
Laboratory, Room
,Chemical
8'75,Hall;
CityThis
E
results
had been made 0* the ash submitted,
had been made by
'
.
report reflected that the ash contained3-iagnesimn,
Aluminum, Iron, and Calciumin the form oi silicates, sulphur
was interviewed
-I-kn
VI--BU
treet
and
Rread S
PB nns~lvania
At
ms
j0
at his
and carbonates.
place oi
e.
Cirard
lven.ue-
business,
1......Phila elnhia
_e_,-_-__,
ash from afriend,
Vania, through
the mail.
time headvised that
he had
received the
sample of
Wayne County,/Pennsy1Ariel is about one mile
'
7 south
Hesaid that Lake
house
had
six months
0
of South Canaan, nearScranton, Pennsylvania. He stated that_
burned about
during e storm and that alarge
house which
had
-
d
ip 4
92.
- .~
. .1;
burned to
He said
the ground
that he
the fire
had occurred
in
less
had not
than
been present
at night
roof and ignited the
an hour.
during the
fire but
that
these
details
had
been
mrnished
letter
by
from
-at he
thewas
time
asample
5 6
of theash was
forwardedanalysis.
for
He
said that
of thepersonal 7
opinion that
the ash
might be
1-1 0
.
ne pointed
92
engineering field
that one
is the
fact that
mass of the ash
they burn
residue had
apart
n11,1
out tnat
of the
of amilitary
flare or
a"flying
Ll
oy
associates in
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_:1___Ii_J
ne nas
oeen advised
characteristics of
for aconsiderable
remained ignited
some types of
period. He
for aperiod
saucer".
the
flares
stated that
the
oi twelve
hours.
He also stated that
he did not think
there had been an explosion but
that a
missile
loud noise- had probably been caused by the vacuum created as the
or object struck the
roof. He
added that there remains aquarx ty
of the
ash, amountingto one bushel, at
e
ago, that
object had struck the
premises atLake Ariel.
In c
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adv sed
1943- He was entirely
rational. He
discounted the
of ameteor
the house
the basis
theory that
of the
'i
.-
that he had been
employed by
the Atomic
Energy Commission at Oak Ridge until
aportion
chemical analysis
made by the City
'
'
Ladvised
quiries
be
directed
to the
The file
of the
Q.1!
my
El»
thieves! '
1
-
office the
.'
Philadelphia. Office
identity of
Inasmuch as there is
apowder
of the
conduct relative
presence of
92
92.
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_. ~11-_~
-3-
the Bureau's
being conducted in this
to flares
"flying saucers".
e.
-4
records
inquiry concern-
or dust used to catch
is
being" forwarded the
to Bureau
Laboratory for
any
interest
Laboratory may desire to
-
The
files
thisL
y letter
received
August
11+,of
194'?
matter. I~1o*-'-rever,
the ash
residue obtained
from the
7
:0
5'-.
;
.___
that
the
to an
no E'g1at;'g~ny
indicated within
--CI- BED-
Y
reflect
were negative
"~JI i5diCtiO1'1, there
is
no
further investigation
the possibility
;,
_c.
Naturalization Service
requested-of this
M4
and suggested
that anyfurther in- b
State
Police.
ing
* liketise
office
reflect that
of Immigration
on
Chemical Laboratory.
that at the suggestion of the City
- authorities, he hadwritten to
u
c
had struck
or in
or study
the
connection rrith
C
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