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January 29 McCurry Press Briefing
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THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release January 29, 1998
PRESS BRIEFING BY
MIKE MCCURRY
The Briefing Room
12:50 P.M. EST
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MR. MCCURRY: Good Monday -- what is it? Thursday? Feels like
Monday.I
haven't been here in a while. When you're having fun, time flies. It feels
a couple days away here. What are you going to do?
Listen, let me start with a couple of housekeeping items. First, the Presi,
placed a call to Prime Minister Jean Chretien of Canada a short while a�
They
had a conversation that lasted just over 10 minutes. It was an opportunit
obviously, for the President to consult further with the Prime Minister o
situation in Iraq. The President and the Prime Minister agreed that relev
U.N. Security Council resolutions are very important and that they shou
respected; that the government of Iraq's flaunting of those resolutions is
acceptable.
The Prime Minister also congratulated the President on the State of the
Union
address, which he apparently had either seen part of or had heard a grea1
about.
Q When was this?
MR. MCCURRY: Finished just a short while ago. I expect, as I told son
you
earlier today, I expect additional calls from the President to some of his
counterparts in days ahead.
Q On Iraq?
:NIR. MCCURRY: On Iraq -- correct.
Q So far, on Iraq, who has he called besides Chretien?
MR. MCCURRY: He's talked to Chancellor Kohl, Prime Minister Blair
indicated
yesterday he anticipates speaking very soon to President Chirac; and of
course,
the call to Prime Minister Chretien today.
Q Is he trying to build a case for unilateral action?
MR. MCCURRY: He's consulting closely with friends, other members<
Security Council as we consider next steps necessary to respond to wha1
been
the unwillingness of the government of Iraq to meet its international
obligations.
Q Is he talking with anyone in the Middle East?
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MR. MCCURRY: Yes.
Q He will not go beyond that?
Q No ultimatum today?
Q How much support is he getting?
Q My question is, how much support is he getting for an aggressive acti
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MR. MCCURRY: I expect him to reiterate the very strong passage he h
the
State of the Union address.
MR. MCCURRY: I'm not - that's not the forum that the President plans
advance the story at this point.
Q Will the President address the question of Iraq in his speech at the
National
Defense University?
Q Will he advance what he has said previously, including in the State ol
Union?
MR. MCCURRY: Oh, I think we have very strong support in the Securi
Council
across the board for clear admonitions to the government of Iraq to mee
obligations. And that's been stated by governments both within the Seen
Council and other governments.
MR. MCCURRY: He has not yet, but as you know, Secretary Albright 1
concluded
meetings in Paris with her French counterpart and plans to see her Russi
counterpart shortly, and then I think she will be in the region. I anticipat
Secretary Cohen being in the region as well.
MR. MCCURRY: Well, the President hasn't made a decision with respe
use of
force, but he clearly is discussing what options are available with others
so are our senior diplomats.
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MR. MCCURRY: I don't believe at this time the President wants to add
what
was obviously a very clear and unmistakable statement Tuesday night.
now have
very high-level diplomacy, obviously, in place, and at work to further oi
own
views.
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MR. MCCURRY: Sam, I'll come back. Let's do that after -
Q Do you have something for this?
Q What about Yeltsin? Does he anticipate talking to him?
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Q Will you please tell us for purposes of the official transcript whether 1
White House can confirm these reports that Monica Lewinsky --
Q Did the President tape a Voice of America address to the people of In
urging
cultural exchanges?
MR. MCCURRY: Have we given out that passage yet? I can tell you m<
about it.
He did. This is the President's annual statement on the occasion of the k
which is, of course, the end of Ramadan. He did express to the people o
Q Basically, he's accepting President Khatami's proposal for these kinds
cultural exchanges?
that more exchanges between our peoples will bring the day that we can
enjoy
again good relations with Iran and with its people.
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MR. MCCURRY: I've got a couple of other housekeeping items. Stay o
Iraq, yes.
MR. MCCURRY: I would not rule out that. I'm a little more certain thal
will
talk to President Chirac soon, but I wouldn't rule out that he will talk to
President Yeltsin as well.
his personal view that the United States regrets the estrangement of our
peoples and our two nations. Iran is a country, the President believes, th
has
a rich and ancient heritage of which the people of Iran are justifiably pre
We have got some real differences obviously with the government of In
but the
President believes that those differences are not insurmountable and he 1
MR. MCCURRY: The President recognizes and appreciates the new tor
that
President Khatami has set with some of his public comments. We have
repeatedly
noted - the U.S. government has noted and I think that the American pc
have
noted - that we do not have differences directly with the people of Iran,
we
do have differences with respect to the policies of Iran's government. I'n
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Q That was on the Voice of America?
extent to which diplomacy may or may not bear fruit, and the degree to
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aware that we have formally agreed to any exchange, but I think the
President is
indicating to the people of Iran in this statement that those kinds of
exchanges
could be fruitful.
MR. MCCURRY: I again stress to you that the President has not made i
decision
on use of force, so our consultations are about the situation that we are i
MR. MCCURRY: This is the annual message that he prepares that is
distributed
both by - or reported on by the Voice of America and distributed by US
Worldnet.
Q Mike, a few months ago, Foreign Minister Primakov made the usual
rounds — in
what was supposed to be a diplomatic solution, but Saddam Hussein kic
out the
American inspectors, all kinds of problems. It seems that Prime Ministe
Primakov is doing the same thing. Ms. Albright is on her way to meet al
foreign leaders. Is there any way the U.S. will accept a solution from
Primakov
at this time?
MR. MCCURRY: It's not a solution by any individual government that
seek,
it's the willingness of the government of Iraq to meet its international
obligations, to allow the inspections to take place that are necessary to
determine the extent and capacity of his programs in weapons of mass
destruction.
And it's Iraq's obstinacy when it comes to those inspections that is now i
purpose of international diplomacy. And we certainly hope and expect t
any
diplomacy undertaken by members of the Security Council will be direc
at
conveying that very strong message to the government of Iraq. We have
reason
to believe that the Russian Federation has communicated any message tl
that.
Q Mike, on Russia and Iraq, is the United States making any progress -
China, too — on persuading its allies that force might be possible in Iraq
military strike might be possible, those who have been most resistant to
in
the past?
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Q When do you expect the President to make a decision on this?
Q Can we turn to the other matter?
MR. MCCURRY: One more, Bill, and then we can.
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Q Well, Mike, are you trying to give the impression that the President is
searching for some diplomatic solution to avoid military conflict?
other governments of a certain course of action, but it's certainly designt
explore the kind of action that is necessary if we are going to achieve th
objectives that we have.
MR. MCCURRY: I think that it's clear the United States government is
consulting
on the utility of diplomacy at this point, and whether or not, through
diplomacy,
we can achieve the objectives that we have.
I'm doing this on behalf of Larry Haas, probably his last official act at C
before going to work for the Vice President. But just so we have on the
record
so that people will see it, since we have confusion about this every year,
what
to do on Monday if you're interested in getting a copy of the Federal Bu
0MB will provide one free copy of each of the five budget documents t
we make
available every year; in other words, one free copy per news organizatic
MR. MCCURRY: I expect the President to continue to participate in the
of
diplomacy I've described to you and I expect him to await reports in the
near future from his two Secretaries who will be consulting on this matt
and
perhaps from Ambassador Richardson who will pursue his conversation
well.
which
diplomacy is increasingly running out of string, thus bringing the need f
other
options to at least be in focus as these consultations occur. I don't know
I would describe the purpose of our diplomacy at this point to be to com
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On Monday, 0MB will release the President's budget for the Fiscal Yea
1999.
Distribution to members of the press will be only to those who display
official
press credentials, and that will occur between 8:00 a.m. and 10:00 a.m.«
Monday, February 2nd, at the Government Printing Office.
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it very clear that he had no sexual relations with this woman.
Q But that is not my question, Mike. Did he meet with Monica Lewinsk
Q It's a legitimate question, do you not agree?
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Everyone knows where GPO is. If you don't, it's down on 710 North Ca
Street. The five documents that we put out in connection with the budge
range
from the budget itself to the explanatory materials, the analytical
perspectives,
the historical tables, so forth, ranging in price from $62 for the big bana
the appendix; and $2.50 for the very user-friendly Citizen's Guide to the
Federal
Budget.
Q I'd like to renew the question then so we can get an answer on the off
transcript. What is the President’s comment, or your comment, to these
reports
that he met with Monica Lewinsky on December 28th here in the White
House to
discuss her possible testimony?
MR. MCCURRY: The President has made very clear that in answer to
questions on
this matter, that he has not told anyone to lie about this matter, and he's
MR. MCCURRY: You've heard me on this subject in the past several d;
I'm not
going to piecemeal respond to questions that have been raised.
Q Let me ask you this. Monica Lewinsky left the White House employ i
April of
1996, and yet we have WAVES records which show that we was here o
MR. MCCURRY: And on that specific question, I don't have anything I
the
Counsel's Office that I can provide.
And
members of the press may purchase additional copies of the budget
documents as
well. I think they're restricted to purchasing one additional if I understoc
correctly from Larry.
And in addition, the documents are going to be available on the Internet
8:00
a.m. And if you want more information on the Internet site and how to a
it,
please call 202-512-1530; toll free, 888-293-6498.
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Q If I could just — I know I'm a visitor, but let me throw this out to you
MR. MCCURRY: Welcome.
Q The Confederacy lost. (Laughter.)
MR. MCCURRY: At that battle, Sam, they did not.
MR. MCCURRY: I think the President has asked of the American peop
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Q Well, Mike, does the President not feel that by not providing informal
he
is doing himself a disservice if, in fact, he has a story that will clear all
this up?
Q If the meeting did not take place, the logs would reveal that. Releasin
logs would give us the answer. If it did take place, it obviously begs the
question again of the President's relation with Miss Lewinsky.
Q Will it concern you if there is a story, a lot of stories that say you're
stonewalling?
MR. MCCURRY: I do not have any such WAVES records, and if CBS
News has them you
can report on them. But I don't have those records.
MR. MCCURRY: Not if we are rallying around the Arkansan the way t
Confederacy
rallied around the Virginians at Bull Run.
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MR. MCCURRY: Again, I think Sam had asked me, I think only intend
ask me
once — but I'll repeat it for the record that we are not in a piecemeal fash
going to try to respond to each and every story that arises on this matter
There are no doubt going to be many, many stories in days and weeks al
and
the Counsel's Office elects to provide the President the opportunity to
respond
to these types of questions in the proper forum. The proper forum whicf
exists
at this point now is an inquiry by the Office of Independent Counsel anc
whatever
other legal venues are available.
repeated
occasions between then and late last year, including, apparently, Decern
28th.
Why was she allowed to keep coming back if she had been removed fro
here?
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Q Isn't the court of public opinion a proper forum to discuss these matte
Q How can we if we don't have this information?
Q This isn't a personal thing. We're not —
MR. MCCURRY: I know, I know. But I mean —
Q — impugning your personal integrity.
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opportunity to address these matters in the proper forum, and I think he
encouraged that the American people will give him that opportunity.
Q Mike, if you don't want us to rely on leaks, then do you expect us to v
until there is perhaps a trial before we see the WAVES records?
MR. MCCURRY: Well, I think you all know the constraint that I'm lab<
under
here, and I don't want to belabor the pain and anguish I feel.
MR. MCCURRY: No, I just expect you to do what good news organizai
would
reasonably do, which is to report as accurately as you can based on fact!
information that you know.
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MR. MCCURRY: The court of public opinion we hope will rely on fact
truth
that is developed through reasonable examination, cross-examination,
provision of
testimony. And we've already seen examples how sometimes allegation:
suggestions, leads can out-run the capacity to develop facts.
MR. MCCURRY: I know. I understand that, Sam. I'm just saying that tl
the
judgment is that there has to be a proper forum in which you can bring c
and
present truth, and we can't do it in a fashion in which we are responding
cascade of allegations and stories and developments that — and sources
are
anonymous —
Q Well, let me ask you this, Mike. The President himself said the other •
that he would speak to the American people about this at the proper timi
The
First Lady in her first television interview said that he would do the sam
thing. In her second television interview she said, you won't be hearing
anymore
from him, from my husband. And we're not hearing anymore from you.
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Q Without answering the question whether or not --
Q But you know the questions will keep coming.
Q — doesn't serve your purpose well, does it?
MR. MCCURRY: I'm just not going to be able to do that.
MR. MCCURRY: I do not know the answer to the question.
Q Does White House counsel know the answer to the question?
Q Okay, no follow-ups. (Laughter.)
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addressed all this yesterday. So I think I'll go back to my transcript
yesterday.
MR. MCCURRY: Again, you've asked me this several times the last coi
of days,
and I think I gave you a good answer, and I'll go back to the transcript.
Q But help us understand, Mike, why that's such a sensitive, such a diffi
question to ask. Did he have a meeting with her, or didn't he?
MR. MCCURRY: I do not know whether they know the answer. I woul
presume so
because they must have reviewed the material, any material that they w(
provide responsive to the requests of the independent counsel.
Q But, Mike, if on one hand you don't want to present a piecemeal
explanation,
at what point do you give a complete, overall view?
Q Without answering the question, did the President meet with Monica
Lewinsky or
not on December 28, can you tell us, do you know the answer to the
question, yes
or no?
MR. MCCURRY: You know it's not a difficult question to answer, yes <
no, what
happened on a particular day. That's not it. It's like, well, then what — if
you would be satisfied that I could answer that — if you would let me an
that one question and not have any follow-ups, that would be a different
matter.
I just don't think you're ever going to be in that position.
MR. MCCURRY: Well, of course they will. And we will just spend enc
time
trying to deal with endless questions. And I'm not going to be able to do
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Q If we agree -
Q She speaks for herself. (Laughter.)
Q It's a deal.
reporting on that subject, but the White House itself has not taken any ft
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Q You keep saying that you're constrained. I don't understand what you'
constrained by.
Q Why is the Clinton administration weighing protecting Secret Service
agents
from potentially testifying in this case?
Q Has the President invoked executive privilege in response to any of tl
subpoenas from Mr. Starr?
Q May I just follow? Do you feel that it would compromise their ability
protect the President if they're exposed to this sort of testimony?
position with respect to what position the Treasury or the Secret Service
should
take on that matter. We have always -- and you've heard me before say 1
MR. MCCURRY: I'd have to ask that you direct that question to the Sec
Service. I don't know exactly the reason why. I've seen some reporting I
MR. MCCURRY: I have not heard of any request from the independent
counsel that
MR. MCCURRY: I'm not an expert on that and I think they are in the b<
position to address that.
MR. MCCURRY: Apparently, someone in the White House did
anonymously answer the
question. But I'm not in a position to do it and I will tell you, I do not kr
the answer.
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deferred to the judgment of those who are professionally responsible foi
protecting the President when they look at the technical and specific
questions
related to what kind of security they provide and what kind of environm
they
need to provide the most effective security.
MR. MCCURRY: Okay, well, David, you asked me that a lot yesterday
I
answered as best I could. I can't do it better than I did yesterday.
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has engendered any discussion of executive privilege by counsel.
Q I'm Jeremy Thompson from Sky News.
MR. MCCURRY: Well, welcome, nice to have you here today.
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Q Mike, the President's attorney asked to push up the Jones' trial. Starr t
has asked more or less for it to be delayed indefinitely because he claim
MR. MCCURRY: There will be tremendous high value in that visit for .
number of
reason. First and foremost, the President enjoys a very close working
relationship with the Prime Minister. Second, we are pursuing at this tin
number of very important matters with the government of the United
Kingdom,
including how we respond to the situation in Iraq, how we make further
plans for
discovery is interfering with his investigation. Do you have reaction to I
moves today that counter yours?
Q Thank you very much. British Prime Minister Blair is visiting the
President
next week. I wondered how much the President is looking forward to th
and how
concerned he might be that these allegations could prove a distraction ai
undermine the value of that visit?
Q Mike, I understand you don't want to tell us about the exact nature of
relationship between the President and Lewinsky, can you tell us what ti
relationship was between Lewinsky and Betty Currie?
MR. MCCURRY: I'm just not going to characterize things that might
properly be
under the venue or the purview of the independent counsel.
MR. MCCURRY: I've already indicated I don't have anything for you o
either of
the stories.
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MR. MCCURRY: I don't know indeed for a fact that he has done that, b
any
event that would, I suspect, be a matter that would be adjudicated before
judge in that case and I would leave it to the parties in that litigation to
express their views.
Q Mike, do you wish to dispute any of the facts reported today by The ?
York
Times and Washington Post?
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Union address the other night.
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developing a deep peace in Bosnia, how we address all the questions rel
to
the future of NATO that you heard the President talk about in his State (
Q Mike, I know this issue pales in significance, but the First Lady and F
Raines are going to talk about the District today at 2:00 p.m. They're go
to
provide some economic help. But there has been a denial of democratic
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But they will also discuss personally what goes on and the situations tha
they
both encounter as they provide effective leadership to their peoples. Am
the
statement I just read indicates, we have — the President has a great deal
admiration for the political courage of Prime Minister Blair. This inquir
The President and the Prime Minister have been directly engaged by
telephone
just in the last several days on the question of Northern Ireland. And by
way, on that, we welcome the British government's announcement todaj
establishing
an official communication to make an independent inquiry into the
circumstances
of Bloody Sunday, the terrible tragedy that took place, as I think many c
you
recall, 26 years ago.
This is an important and timely initiative to come to terms with the past
to
help the people of Northern Ireland look to the future and to the
reconciliation
that they seek as they now negotiate the terms of a peace that we hope v
bring
an end to the troubles and bring those peoples the peace they fervently
desire.
The President's work with the Prime Minister on that issue alone is one
example
of the kind of partnership that they have developed, and that will be
something
that they will explore at length when they meet next week.
he has launched is something that I think was no doubt difficult to do an
speaks
to his devotion to the peace process and his determination to advance th
peace
process forward. And I suspect very much the Prime Minister will want
talk to
the President about the President's situation. I'd be surprised if he didn't.
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Q But will that be followed up with pieces of legislation or with contact
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Congress. Is the President ever going to speak to the restoration of
democracy
in the District of Columbia, or is it just going to be more money every y
MR. MCCURRY: He no doubt will and I would not be surprised that to
when the
First Lady and when Director Raines and others talk about the type of
assistance
that will be available from the federal government for the District, they'1
about the fundamental right that the citizens of the District have to
democratic
representation.
I think these are not disconnected issues. I think that, in fact, making sm
that the District can thrive economically is part of the equation of restor
sense of democracy and purpose to the governance of the District.
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rights or
a usurpation of democratic rights by legislation by the Republican-contr
Mr. Faircloth or Mr. Taylor in terms of - or the Speaker in terms of - if
administration, I guess what I'm saying, going to introduce legislation tl
will
rectify what happens this summer -
MR. MCCURRY: I would have to look further and see if that is someth
in
fact, that the administration is exploring. I have not heard that. But I wil
say one thing, that that the type of assistance that we are providing and 1
initiatives the President will propose with respect to the District of Colu
are designed to get this city in the shape that the President suggested it
should
be in Tuesday night, and get this city in a position where it can manage
fiscal affairs prudently and wisely, and restore the kind of sense of
responsibility that people expect of the leadership of the District so that
can have the full-fledged democratic rights to which the citizens of the
District
are truly entitled.
Q Mike, the campaign finance investigation was and is an ongoing crim
grand
jury investigation. Yet you folks released piecemeal a lot of White Hom
records in that case. Can you explain why you didn't feel similarly
constrained
then as you do now?
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Q Charlie Trie has been in town --
MR. MCCURRY: I do not.
Q Vernon Jordan has be subpoenaed in this matter and it may be that th<
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Q Mike, on the issue of Iraq, has the President considered any kind of
address
to the nation on the issues involved?
Q Mike, what you're saying, though, is that the criminal investigation is
what's
constraining you. And the question is, if the criminal investigation is
constraining you now, why didn't it concern you before?
he speaks, as he will today, about what next steps we must consider and
contemplate. And at any appropriate time, if the President, as Command
Chief,
deems necessary, I'm sure he'll want to take his case to the American pe
Q I wonder, Mike, if you'd care to comment on the story in today's
Washington
Post about these very graphic allegations involving Kathleen Willey anc
President.
MR. MCCURRY: David, that's not what I'm saying. And what I said on
subject, as I told you a moment ago, I told you yesterday.
the
campaign finance discussions, there were ongoing procedures on Capitc
Hill.
There were, I think, fairly combative hearings that were being held in th
Senate
and then in the House. I mean, it's an entirely different situation, as is
probably obvious to you.
MR. MCCURRY: I don't have any reaction to that. The Justice Departn
has
just issued a statement.
MR. MCCURRY: I think the President, of course, addressed the nation
Tuesday
night and made very clear our intent and objective with respect to Iraq a
what
we seek in terms of our overall objectives. We want to thwart Iraq’s cap.
to
develop and use weapons of mass destruction. We want to limit Saddarr
Hussein's
ability to project force and to threaten his neighbors. That will remain th
President’s objectives as he pursues diplomacy. It will remain his object
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Q Well, not at all.
MR. MCCURRY: Mike, despite the President's -- the controversy arour
Q Mike, let me follow that if I could.
MR. MCCURRY: I don't think --1 don't understand the question I guess
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President, his poll ratings continue to rise to record levels. Why do you
that's so?
MR. MCCURRY: I know that they are very close friends and they talk 1
time to
time, but the subject of their discussions I do not know.
Q Well, do think — would you take the question of the President's — wh<
it's proper under the circumstances to continue to discuss this matter wit
Vernon Jordan?
Q How do you think that will be done? How will it be done eventually?
Through
his lawyers? How will it be done?
MR. MCCURRY: Well, I have no better answer to that then the dozen c
times
you've asked in the last couple of days.
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MR. MCCURRY: That's an entirely hypothetical question that I will no
take.
President will eventually be asked to give some testimony. In light of th
has
the President and Vernon Jordan continued to talk about this matter witl
each
other? Is it proper for them to do so?
Q Mike, to what extent, following up on Susan's question, what extent a
is
your handling of this whole situation driven by poll numbers?
MR. MCCURRY: I think in part because he gave a great speech Tuesda
night and
poll numbers, I think, are very elastic in responding to whatever stimuli
come
along. But I also think that the American people have thought very cleai
about
this and heard a lot about it in the last couple days and I think that they 1
the President deserves some opportunity to present his argument in the
fashion
that will allow the truth to prevail and to emerge.
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Q Is that true?
MR. MCCURRY: I am out of the loop. I'm not even sure --
Q Which may be the best position for you to be in -
MR. MCCURRY: I'm not even sure on this matter there is a loop.
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Q What they seem to show is the percentage of people who say it doesn
matter
if he's had a sexual relationship with this young woman has risen.
MR. MCCURRY: Very little, if you judge what I read about all the inte
deliberations between the political people and the legal people at the W1
House.
Q The poll numbers also show, Mike, that over the past week or so, the
percentage of people believing the allegations has declined somewhat. I
wonder
MR. MCCURRY: I don't know that to be a fact. If you -- is that true?
Anyone
else — I'm not sure that's true. That is true? Good. But anyhow, the poim
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Q Well, to what extent are your decisions about responding to our quest
and
how the President will ultimately respond, as he said, sooner rather than
later,
with more rather than fewer answers, driven by what you're reading in tl
polls?
MR. MCCURRY: I guest the percentage of people who believe me, I he
has
remained steady. The percentage of people interested in hearing me has
surely
declined. (Laughter.)
Q You've told us very carefully that you don't know things. You have m
it
clear that you are out of the loop.
Q Mike, you had an abortion clinic bombing in Birmingham this mornir
Last
year, there was a bombing of a clinic in Atlanta. That crime is still unso
The two may have nothing to do with one another but does the Presiden
it's
time to step the federal investigation of these crimes?
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Very clearly, one of the reasons that he signed into law legislation that r
MR. MCCURRY: I think you actually carried a very good story yesterd
exactly
that subject.
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Q But you didn't articulate any and you declined to articulate any yester
when we asked you on that.
Q Mike, can you explain. A sequence of events and a conspiracy are tw<
different things.
MR. MCCURRY: They had a good story on it, and if you have a copy,
provide
you one.
MR. MCCURRY: Well, I think that there are some facts and some of th
have been
reported even in your newspaper about sequence of events and things h<
come up.
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Q Mike, several times from this podium you've been very critical of the
President's opponents for alleging conspiracies on any number of topics
from
Vince Foster to the Mena airport, on the basis of innuendo and without
evidence
or facts. Why is it different than the President and First Lady alleging a
wing conspiracy, so far on the basis of no facts?
it a federal crime to interfere with a woman exercising her constitutiona
right
to visit a women's health center is so that the full weight of federal law
enforcement can be brought in an effective way when a situation arises :
which
that is called for or entertained or agreed to by federal law enforcement
officials, working in close cooperation with state and local officials. An,
indeed, federal agents are already in Birmingham to assist local law
enforcement
officials there to make sure that the perpetrators of this crime are brougl
justice.
MR. MCCURRY: The President will have a statement shortly that will
strongly -
it is already? Okay. So, he obviously has strongly condemned the violer
that
occurred. He thinks that this bombing is an unforgivable act that strikes
the
heart of the constitutional freedoms and individual liberties that all
Americans
hold dear and that are protected.
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Q He's asking you, Mike. That's a fair question.
Q - what a conspiracy is.
MR. MCCURRY: Sure, why not.
MR. MCCURRY: You obviously know the answer to that.
Q What is it?
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not just with opponents, but specifically with Ken Starr, but presented n
evidence for that.
Q Is that what a conspiracy is - a sequence of events, when two people
situation might know each other? That's a conspiracy?
Q A serious question. You talk about your own pain and anguish. Is this
uncomfortable situation where you would like to say more?
Q You said that you're out of the loop. Who is in the loop to speak to thi
public?
MR. MCCURRY: You all have reported in recent days on the chain anc
sequence of
events that brought some of these allegations to light. I think that's prett
clear record.
Q But you say you disbelieve some of our reports? Are you saying you
believe
these reports?
Q I mean, the question is that you've condemned people for making
statements on
the basis of innuendo. And she alleged a very specific right-wing conspi
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MR. MCCURRY: I think when people — that story would, I think, woul
have been
very well reported in the last couple of days about how things have com
about.
MR. MCCURRY: There is not a loop available for us to use to respond
these
questions. And I think that's pretty clear. And I think that if there was -
there was going to be that loop, I would be in it. But I think ultimately,
people want to hear from the President on this. And the President is not
position to do that now, so we play bust the pinata up here every day.
Q You talk about a loop that is not available for us to talk to right now.'
you give us any sense if there are any more people joining that loop, pec
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MR. MCCURRY: I don't know what kind of conversations he's had. He
Q Do they know each other?
MR. MCCURRY: I do not know.
Q Do you like the way he's shouting?
Q I thought the boy was on speed last night.
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MR. MCCURRY: I do not know the answer to that. I don't know what 1
of
relationship they had.
Q Mike, on the relationship — the question of the relationship between
Lewinsky and Betty Currie, can you at least say that they had some sort
relationship?
the
President used to deal with and is now bringing in but we haven't yet
mentioned?
Q Mike, Governor Romer last night said that the DNC plans to depend i
more
heavily on Gore between now and midterms. Is there any similar plan at
White
House to put Gore forward a little more?
MR. MCCURRY: Yes, he's going to start doing the daily briefing. It's v
good. (Laughter.)
MR. MCCURRY: No. I am only aware that he has retained Mickey Kar
but we
told you about that over the weekend. I'm not aware that he has formally
added
anyone else to his legal team.
MR. MCCURRY: He's going to do that. Actually, I wish he'd -- maybe
come
down here and say, come stand by Mike McCurry. (Laughter.)
President's friend and he's been here in recent days, but I don't know wh
they've talked about.
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Q What about Harry Thomason, how can he talk to the President withoi
being in
danger of having every conversation subpoenaed?
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Q Well, he was energetic.
imagine how things will unfold in coming days and weeks.
Q — have a press conference?
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Q Yes, that's my question. Are you still going to have a full-fledged pre:
conference with Tony Blair?
MR. MCCURRY: I am. But I think that you can all easily imagine that i
President is not going to entertain questions on this subject and not goin
be
able to provide you with many answers if you want to persist in asking.
MR. MCCURRY: Ann, that's a question that I'll ask Mr. Lockhart — I'll
that question and ask Mr. Lockhart to pursue that. There has clearly bee
litigation in front of the courts on exactly that kind of question. I know
Chuck
Ruff to be a superb attorney and I know that he has worked hard under
difficult
circumstances on this issue, and I'm sure that whatever work he's done i
consistent with his obligations under law and consistent with the desire •
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MR. MCCURRY: The way this thing is eight days into this story, and il
had
asked me nine days ago would we be sitting here talking about this toda
would have been impossible to imagine. So I think it is equally impossil
Q Wendell spoke of the numbers of people believing the President goin;
Also
the numbers of people who think that the media has done a poor job or i
covering
Q
On occasion, the counsel here, Mr. Ruff, has been in touch with some
the
President's personal attorneys. Are those conversations privileged in a
client-attorney relationship, or are Mr. Ruffs conversations not subject 1
any
kind of privilege?
President's other attorneys to protect the privilege rights and the Preside
has
as a client and as an individual. But how exactly that is done and what tl
legal interpretation is is a question I don't want to haphazard a guess at.
Q Mike, you say that people want to hear from the President. Given this
ongoing
criminal investigation, can you envision the President being able to talk
the
American people until that's over?
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Q You're not boring us.
Q No, this is very enlightening. (Laughter.)
Q People would have his word.
Q This notion that we're all going to stand up and ask him all these ques
might present themselves.
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this too much, that's also gone up, too. Is that part of the White House
strategy, to be critical of the media --
Q Mike, the President could come out and say, I did not meet with Mon
Lewinsky on December 28. He could end it.
next Wednesday or whenever the press conference with Blair is, and he'
going to
say over and over again, I never told anyone to lie, I never had impropei
sexual
relations and that's going to - it's like name, rank and serial number. Is i
going to be - how is that going to be helpful?
MR. MCCURRY: Look, I think that people make their judgments basec
what they
think is right and what they think is fair, and I'll leave it to them to deck
how you're doing your job.
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Q Mike, his refusal to answer questions doesn't mean that he can't answ<
them.
MR. MCCURRY: Sam, that would not end it, and you know that would
end it.
That's disingenuous to say that.
MR. MCCURRY: Well, it will be of necessity if all the things given tha
answered our friend from across the way about what they are going to tt
about
at this meeting and if you want to persist in asking questions that you kr
at
the beginning of the news conference he's not going to be able to answe
think
the question about why the public has some of these concerns about the
MR. MCCURRY: Yes. Part of the White House strategy is to have me c
out here
every single day and bore people senseless with the answers that I give •
this
matter. (Laughter.)
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MR. MCCURRY: Why did you have to remind me of that painful mem
Q It's seared in my own memory.
Q It did work with Blair the last time.
Q You're right, it won't work this time. (Laughter.)
Q How is Ms. Currie bearing up?
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swarmed the other day, you saw how she looked, and she looked awfull
frightened
at that moment.
Q Well, now, wait a minute. You've had time to refine it. You could try
(laughter.)
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MR. MCCURRY: I could try to do a little better the next time around? I
didn't
work
— let's put it that way.
MR. MCCURRY: That's right. Thank you, Sam. I'll stipulate that -- that
went
in the record — it's D-O-N-A-L-D -
Q Mike, the last couple of times the President has had bilateral news
conferences in order to keep it from being swamped with sort of scanda
related
questions — I'm thinking in Brazil and actually when he was in London
Tony
Blair the last time -- he's come out trying to clear the air a little bit so th;
he doesn't have the sort of spectacle of side-by-side -
MR. MCCURRY: It clearly didn't work when we tried to do it, so I dou
we'll
try that again.
MR. MCCURRY: Well, it didn't work and I can’t imagine it would worl
these
circumstances.
MR. MCCURRY: You're right, he can't — if he believes that he can't an:
them
and then is in a position where he does not answer them or refuses to an
them, they are not necessarily the same, but they are clearly directly
connected.
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Q Is he back on the job?
Q Is she at work?
Q Is she back at work?
MR. MCCURRY: Yes.
Q Did it give you any clues?
MR. MCCURRY: Any clues as to what?
Q Mike, are you considering limiting your daily briefings?
MR. MCCURRY: Limiting in what fashion? Clearly, not. (Laughter.)
Q Like not having them every day?
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questions to answer, when to answer them? Does it tell you that
stonewalling,
while it may not work, is uncomfortable here —
MR. MCCURRY: If I could illuminate any of that, I would. It's kind of
can't illuminate that right now.
Q Mike, how does the obviously enthusiastic response the President got
yesterday, how will you factor that into deciding whether or not — how i
MR. MCCURRY: I don't think that one speech in middle America or in
Wisconsin
tells you a whole lot about things like that. I think you have to use the b<
judgment that you can bring at the time and move on.
MR. MCCURRY: She's a decent person who didn't deserve to be in a
position where
she was frightened.
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MR. MCCURRY: No. I mean, I've got to be here. There are days where
don't
do briefings, when we've got something like a State of the Union addres
something. But 1 show up here pretty regularly, regardless of the
circumstances.
That's fair to say, right?
Q What's the President's view of the Air Force pilot yesterday who ran i
the
Q As to what the public wants to know, what the public is demanding tc
know,
whether or not we represent the public's interest or not.
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mud? (Laughter.) No, seriously.
Q Quite a bit.
MR. MCCURRY: Quite a bit. And I suspect he will in the future, neces:
Q Monday, Tuesday? In other words, the budget is Monday, right?
MR. MCCURRY: That was a hint that I dropped.
Q Right. But where is he going on Monday or Tuesday?
Q Tucumcari, New Mexico? Roswell?
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Q The President did get big and friendly crowds yesterday when he was
the
road. Do you think he's going to choose to go on the road again?
Q — a question on presidential travels. A lot of the travels we've had the
pleasure of making over the last year have been for campaign dinners, v
the
President was raising money for various candidates. Are we going to ha
lot
MR. MCCURRY: It's always good to let a little rabbit out that people ci
chase.
You will be especially happy at where he's going.
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MR. MCCURRY: Of course. Look, we travel a lot. This President has b
out on
the road and out in the country more so than some of his predecessors, I
believe.
Is that right, Helen? That's fair to say.
MR. MCCURRY: He's got an enormous amount of respect for those fol
And that
particular episode, why it happened, it didn't bother the President and I
suspect
that the crew involved feel worse about it than the President does, to be
constrained by the extensive foreign travel schedule we have this year. I
wouldn't be surprised if, for example, when we do something like unvei
budget he then goes out and speaks to it on the road. But it's not going t<
any different than it would have been this time last year, in which we di>
much
the same kind of thing. We get out and try to talk to Americans.
MR. MCCURRY: I didn't say a thing. No, we don't need to go there bee
we
were in the flying saucer yesterday. (Laughter.)
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of these in the future, or are those diminished now because the Presiden
MR. MCCURRY: I suspect we will have a lot of them. I haven't heard c
Q There's not a decline in interest of -
Q Mike, on travel, is the Africa trip still on?
MR. MCCURRY: Did we ever announce it?
Q Yes, you did.
MR. MCCURRY: We finally did? All right. Yes.
Q Mike, I didn't understand your question to Wendell a bit back. Charlie
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MR. MCCURRY: No, I haven't heard of any change. I think Chairman
Grossman was
reporting on some of that today. You might want to give him a call.
MR. MCCURRY: We don't have all of the elements that I can specify a
point. I can tell you that they plan to spend a significant quantity of time
together. Clearly, it's the arrival, the meetings they will have, the dinner
that they have the night before — Thursday night — and obviously they j
to
speak to all of you on Friday. And I suspect, given how closely they wo
together, they will try to find some other settings in which they can sper
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MR. MCCURRY: I'm saying that he has been indicted. That has just be,
announced in a statement by the Justice Department, and the White Hou
will
defer a comment because it is now a legal proceeding and the Justice
Department
statement will speak for itself.
Q Mike, do you have any more on the substance and the format of the B
trip?
Will there be a Camp David aspect to this thing? And will there also be
discussion with Blair as the President of the European Union?
was one of the President's closest personal friends, gave a lot of money
had
to be returned to his legal defense fund. Are you saying the President ha
reaction to his indictment?
change in our plans. At the same time, I don't know what the specific —
were projecting ahead several months, a day here, a day there, in which
were
going to be taking some outside trips for that purpose. But I haven't heai
any —
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time.
Let me do a couple more. You guys can leave any time, like an hour age
Q Now that Congress is back, is there any plan for the President to meet
the Democratic leaders, either on the Hill or here?
MR. MCCURRY: I would suggest that would be done in more of a pers
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Q Two minutes ago you said that the President probably would discuss i
difficulties with the Prime Minister when he's here. If he does, why doe:
he
talk to the American people about it?
Q Are you urging congressional Democrats not to jump to conclusions,
to come
out against the President?
But we are working hard with the Embassy in developing a proper prog)
that we
can publicly release, and when I can do so I shall consult with the Prime
Minister's official spokesman, the PMOS, and see if we can coordinate <
statements. Mine will be in the name of the official White House spokes
MR. MCCURRY: Not in the immediate future, but certainly we will be
working up
an agenda with them. I wouldn't be surprised if they get together someti
relatively soon.
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MR. MCCURRY: Of course. And I think that they have now seen that i
think
it's fair to say that is a predominate attitude of the American people,
apparently, and I think that that will give members of Congress some
comfort,
that they can wait for the proper settings in which the truth can be presei
Q A related question - is there any effort by the President or by his aide
consult with Democrats on the Hill to make sure they feel informed abo
side
of this controversy and remain supportive?
MR. MCCURRY: Yes, I think there is a strong desire to consult with th
but I
think that the folks who work on that are as necessarily constrained as I
in
some respects. So I don't know that it's entirely satisfactory for those on
Hill, because they're not in any better position to get information that th<
seek than many of you.
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Q Well, wait a minute. What would he talk to the Prime Minister about''
Q Thank you, thank you.
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Q The Prime Minister couldn't be subpoenaed, could he, if it's not a
privileged
conversation? (Laughter).
MR. MCCURRY: If they talk about this, I'm sure we'll give you a splen
readout at the proper time.
way, but
not in any great explication of detail, which is what I think you're most
interested in. I don't think you're interested in emotive pronunciations.
MR. MCCURRY: Boy, that is a question for the State Department Offic
Legal
Advisor.
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REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
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Remarks by the President
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to achieve that and why it is so important.
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about. Weren't you proud of her? She did a great job I think. Thank you
much. (Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. Special thanks to those of yc
who had to
wait all night to get in. (Laughter.) Hope you won't be disappointed.
(Laughter.)
There is no better example of that principle for the strength of America
the opportunity and the duty all of us as Americans have now to save Sc
Security for the 21st century. So today I return to discuss what we have
Mr. Vice President, Father O'Donovan, to all the groups here who are
concerned
with Social Security, especially to Congressman Penny and the Concorc
Coalition,
and John Rother and the AARP, I thank you all for being here.
I thank Senator Bob Kerrey, who when he cast the decisive vote for our
budget in
1993 said that he would do so only if I were also committed to dealing c
the
long-term structural problems of Social Security, to heal the deficit then
well. I thank Gene Sperling and the members of my staff who worked v*
us on
this. And thank you, Mannone Butler, for embodying what this struggle
Often in the years since I have come back here to discuss our nation's m
demanding challenges. And on many occasions, but none more relevant
today,
I have recalled the assertion of my freshman professor in the history of
civilizations course, Carroll Quigley, that the distinguishing characterist
Western civilization in general and the United States of America in part
is
what he called future preference - the idea that the future can be better 1
the present or the past; that each of us has a personal, moral responsibili
work to make it so, to plan for it, to work for it, to invest for it.
You know, there was a recent poll which said that young people in the
generation
of the students here felt it was far more likely that they would see a UF(
than
that they would draw Social Security. (Laughter.) And others may think
When I first ran for President six and a half years ago now, I came to thi
hall
to set out my vision for 21st century America, and a strategy for achievi
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my goodness, where did all the time go? It seems like it was yesterday t
I say that to make this point: It may seem a long way away from the tim
restored confidence — the Information Age, a growing global economy,
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A couple of days ago I went to New Mexico to visit our national labs —
may
have seen the story. And our national labs at Los Alamos and Sandia an
Lawrence
Livermore, where we do a lot of the research that not only helps us to
preserve
the security of our smaller and smaller nuclear arsenal, but helps us to d
with our environmental questions and a lot of other fascinating challeng
the
future. But anyway, after I finished this, I had lunch with a few of my
friends,
including a man that I went to Georgetown with. And at the end of the 1
he
whipped out this photo and gave it to me, and we were sitting in a park
together,
about a week after I graduated in 1968. And 1 looked at that photo and I
now — where you are until you will need retirement. It may seem a long
away
before most of your parents need retirement -- but it isn't. And great soc
Social Security is a lot more than a line in the budget. It reflects some ol
our deepest values - the duties we owe to our parents, the duties we ow
each
other when we're differently situated in life, the duties we owe to our
children
and our grandchildren. Indeed, it reflects our determination to move for
across the generations and across the income divides in our country, as <
America.
it's a long way off, as Mannone said, and the Vice President said he thoi
it
was a long way off.
plan over long periods of time so that individual lives can flower and tai
root
and take form. And that is what we have to do today.
Social Security has been there for America's parents in the 20th century.
I
am determined that we will have that kind of security for the American
people in
the 21st century. We are entering this new millennium, the new century.
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the real problems.
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And it got so bad in the 1980s that between 1981 and 1992 the total deb
the
country was quadrupled — quadrupled — in a 12-year period, over and a
the
previous 200 years. That raised interest rates. It took more and more tax
money
away from investments in education, for example, or the environment tc
interest on the debt. It slowed economic growth and it definitely
compromised
your future.
they're
changing the way we live and work. And the scope and pace of change,
it
may seem commonplace to those of you who have grown up with it, bul
people my
age
it is still truly astonishing. And I can tell you, it is without historical
precedent.
Five years ago I determined that we had to set a different course, to mo\
past
the debate that was then paralyzing Washington and, frankly, didn't haw
much to
do with the real world, between those who said government was the ene
those
who said government was the solution and as long as you can fight aboi
something, then you don't have to get down to the nitty-gritty of dealing
For a long time our country failed to come to grips with those changes a
we
paid the price in a stagnant economy and increasing inequality among o
working
families, in higher child poverty, in record welfare rolls, higher crime ra
other deepening social problems. Before the present era we had only rur
budget
deficits, and the deficit I think came to symbolize what was amiss with 1
way
we were dealing with the changes in the world. We had only run budget
deficits
for sound economic reasons — either because there were some overwhel
need to
invest or because there was a recession that required stimulation of the
economy,
or
because there was a national emergency like war. The idea that we w
just
simply have a structural deficit and run one year in and year out was uni
of.
But that is exactly what has happened throughout your lifetime.
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When the British Prime Minister was here last week, Tony Blair, we stn
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Student loans that are guaranteed by the government have been made le;
expensive and easier to repay. There are hundreds of thousands of more
Grant scholarships, 300,000 more work-study slots. AmeriCorps has alh
For five years we have reduced the size of the deficit, reduced the size o
government, dramatically reduced the budget deficit by over 90 percent,
continued to invest in your future. And in very dramatic ways that's chai
the
experience of going to college.
that we both think, and many other leaders increasingly around the worl
beginning to think that this debate is fruitless and that there has to be a t
way - that 21st century government, Information Age government, mus
smaller,
must be less bureaucratic, must be fiscally disciplined and focus on bein
catalyst for new ideas and giving you and all other Americans the tools
need
to make the most of their own lives.
100,000 young people to earn money for college while serving in their
community.
There are now tax-free IRA accounts for college education. Last year w^
enacted
the HOPE Scholarship, which is a $1,500 tax credit for the first two yea
college. And then there's a lifetime learning tax credit for junior and sen
years for graduate schools and for adults who have to go back for furthe
training. For the first time in history, while reducing the deficit by 90
percent, we can honestly say if you're willing to work for it, whatever y<
circumstances, you can go on to college in the United States, and that is
very
important achievement.
Now, all of these things have worked together to give us the strongest
economy
in a generation — almost 15 million new jobs, the lowest unemployment
in 24
years, the lowest inflation rate in 30 years, the highest homeownership i
history, average incomes rising again. I've submitted to Congress for 19
the
first balanced budget in 30 years. All that is a remarkable achievement,
as I said, we have to be thinking about the future. And all of you know t
greater or lesser degree of specificity, every one of you know that the S(
Security system is not sound for the long-term, so that all of these
achievements
- the economic achievements, our increasing social coherence and cohe
our
increasing efforts to reduce poverty among our youngest children - all (
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Today I want to talk about what it is and how we propose to deal with it
deals with that surplus - save Social Security first.
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as the Vice President said, we should use the economic good times. Tha
saying that you don't wait for a rainy day to fix the roof is good for us tc
it's very sunny outside. And on this sunny day, we should deal with Soc
Security.
Now, if that's so, it is now estimated that with normal ups and downs in
economic growth, over the next 10 years, after 30 years of deficits, that
United States will have a budget surplus in somewhere in the range of a
trillion
dollars in the aggregate over the next 10 years. 1 have said before we sp<
them
are threatened by the looming fiscal crisis in Social Security.
In very specific terms, we've got a great opportunity because it is projec
that we stay with the present budget plan, that taking account of the fact
we won't always have the greatest economic times as we've had now — 1
will
be times when the economy will grow faster, times when it will grow sL
we
may recessions — but structurally, we have eliminated the deficit, so tha
over
time
we should have a balanced budget, and over time, most times we si
be
running a surplus now if we stay with the discipline we have now over t
next
couple of decades.
penny of that on new programs or tax cuts, we should save Social Secur
first.
I think it should be the driving principle of this year's work in the Unitec
States Congress — do not have a tax cut, do not have a spending prograr
That is our obligation to you and, frankly, to ourselves. And let me expl
that. This fiscal crisis in Social Security affects every generation. We nc
know that the Social Security trust fund is fine for another few decades,
if
it gets in trouble and we don't deal with it, then it not only affects the
generation of the baby boomers and whether they'll have enough to live
when
they retire, it raises the question of whether they will have enough to liv
by unfairly burdening their children and, therefore, unfairly burdening tl
children's ability to raise their grandchildren. That would be unconscion
especially since, if you move now, we can do less and have a bigger imj
especially since we now have the budget surplus.
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Now, it's also known, however, that the changes that are underway toda
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To give you an idea of the profound success of the program over the las
years — as you know, there have been increasing number of children bei
raised
in single-parent households, where the incomes are not so high — the ch
poverty rate in America is almost twice that. But no one can begrudge tl
So
the first thing we need to say is, Social Security has succeeded in ending
stark terror of a penniless old age. And that is a terrific achievement for
American society.
Now, for more than half a century Social Security has been a dramatic
success.
If you just look at the first chart over here on the right, you will see that
1959 - I don't see as well as I once did -- (laughter) - the poverty rate
among
seniors was still 35 percent. As recently as 1959, still over a third of sen
lived in poverty. By 1979, it had dropped to 15.2 percent. By 1996, it he
dropped to 10.8 percent.
place great stresses on the Social Security safety net. The baby boomers
getting grey. When my generation retires — and I'm the oldest of the bat
boomers; I was bom in 1946, I'm 51 - and the generation is normally h(
run
for the 18 years after that, that's normally what people mean when they ■
about the baby boomers — it will dramatically change the ratio of worke
If you ever have a chance you ought to read some of the books that have
thousands of letters that older people sent to President Roosevelt, beggii
him,
in the words of one typical letter writer, to eliminate — and I quote - "th
stark terror of penniless, helpless old age." That's what prompted Presid'
Roosevelt to launch the Social Security system in 1935, to create what h
called
the cornerstone of a civilized society.
Let me back up just a minute, mostly for the benefit of the young people
the
audience, to talk a little bit about the importance of this effort. It's hard
for even people in my generation to understand this, much less yours. B
early
in this century, to be old meant to be poor. To be old meant to be poor.r
vast majority of people over 65 in America early in this century were In
in
poverty. Their reward for a lifetime of work, for doing right by their
children,
for helping with their grandchildren, unless their kids could take care of
them,
was living in poverty.
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earners, aggravated by increasing early retirements and other things, off
by
gradual increase in the Social Security retirement age enacted back in 1 ‘
So
if you look at that, that's the second chart here.
In 1960, there were 5.1 Americans working for every one person drawir
Social
Security. In 1997, there's still 3.3 people working for every one person
drawing
Social Security. In 2030, the year after the Social Security trust fund
supposedly will go broke unless we change something, at present projec
retirement rates — that is, the presently projected retirement age and san
rates - there will be two people working for every one person drawing
Social
Security.
So what's the bottom line? You can see it. Today, we're actually taking i
lot more money from Social Security taxes enacted in 1983 than we're
spending
out. Because we've run deficits, none of that money has been saved for
Social
Security. Now, if you look at this little chart here, from 1999 forward w
be
able to save that money -- or a lot of it, anyway. We'll be able to save a
of it that will go into pure surplus in the budget. It can be invested. But
Now, if you look at that plus the present investment patterns of the fund
which are designed to secure 100 percent security and, therefore, get a
somewhat
lower return in return for 100 percent security for the investments, that's
what
will cause the problem. So if you look at the presently projected retirem
and
the presently projected returns, that will cause the problem.
It's very important you understand this. Once you understand this, you
realize
this is not an episode from the X Files, and you're not more likely to see
UFO
if you do certain specific things. On the other hand, if you don't do anytl
one of two things will happen — either it will go broke and you won't ev
get
it; or if we wait too long to fix it, the burden on society of taking care oi
generation's Social Security obligations will lower your income and low
your
ability to take care of your children to a degree most of us who are your
parents
think would be horribly wrong and unfair to you and unfair to the future
prospects of the United States.
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other things will have to be done, as well. That will not be enough.
whatever. But this is what is going to happen unless we change, if we cl
now we can make a big difference.
I should also point out that Social Security also goes to the spouses of pi
seen in terms of these economic realities.
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directions to run this 2029 number well out into the future in ways that a
keep Social Security's role in providing some retirement security to peoj
without unfairly burdening your generation and your ability to raise you
children to do that. And I can tell you, I have had countless talks with b;
boomers of all income groups and I haven't found a single person in my
generation
who is not absolutely determined to fix this in a way that does not unfai:
burden your generation. But we have to start now.
And if nothing is done by 2029, there will be a deficit in the Social Sect
trust fund, which will either require — if you just wait until then — a hug
tax increase in the payroll tax, or just about a 25 percent cut in Social
Security benefits. And let me say today, Social Security — I want to put
in, too, because I want you all to start thinking about this — Social Secui
was conceived as giving a floor for life. It is not enough to sustain the
standard of living of almost any retiree retiring today.
Now, again I say, if we act soon, less is more. If we can develop a const
as a country to act soon we can take relatively modest steps in any numl
We have to join together and face the facts. We have to rise above
partisanship, just the way we did when we forced the historic balanced
budget
agreement. This is — as you can well see, this is reducible to stark
mathematical terms. This need not become a partisan debate. Oh, there (
to
be a debate, a good debate on what the best way to invest the funds are.
There
So you also will have to make provisions for your own retirement savin;
and
you should start early when you go out and go to work, with a 401 (k) pl
when their widowed. Social Security also goes to the disabled. There's a
Social
Security disability program. Cassandra Wilkins, who's here with us, wh<
Vice
President recognized, ran the Social Security disability program for me
I
was governor. It's a very important program. But all of these things shoi
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The first forum, which will set out before the American people the full r
of the problem — essentially, what I'm doing with you today with a few
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America stronger and, again, preserving the ties that bind us across the
generations.
ought to be a good debate on what the best trade-offs are between the
changes
that will have to be made. But it ought to be done with a view toward m
This national call also will spread to every corner of the country, to evei
member of Congress. There are other private groups which have to play
role.
The Pew Charitable Trust has launched a vital public information campi
I have asked the America Association of Retired Persons, the AARP, a
leading
voice for older Americans, and the Concord Coalition, a leading voice f
fiscal
discipline, to organize a series of four nonpartisan regional forums this }
The Vice President and I will participate. I hope the Republican and
Democratic
leadership will also participate. I was encouraged that Speaker Gingrich
the other day that he felt we should save the surplus until we had fixed t
Social Security first.
Americans Discuss Social Security. On March 21st, I will help kick off
first
of many of their town hall meetings and teleconferences.
details — will be in Kansas City on April 7th. Then in subsequent ones v
will
hear from a variety of experts and average citizens across all ages. It is >
important to me that this debate involve young people — very important
because
you have a huge stake in it and you need to imagine where you will be a
what
kind of investment patterns you think are fair for you and how you think
is
going to play out over the next 20, 30, 40 years. We want people of all a
involved in this.
Now, when we go out across the country and share the information and
people's ideas — then, at the end of the year in December, I will convene
historic White House Conference on Social Security. And then, in a yea
will
call together the Republican and Democratic leaders of the House and S
to
begin drafting comprehensive, bipartisan landmark legislation to save th
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Keep in mind, most of you who are sitting out here can look forward to
Acting today for the future is in some ways the oldest of American tradi
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Social
Security system.
expectancy well into your 80s. Most of you, by the time you get to be m
age, if
you live to be my age, your life expectancy will probably be by then 90
more.
We're going to have to rethink this whole thing. But we have to do it wi
view towards preserving the principles and the integrity of our society,
binding
us together across the generations and across the income divides.
This national effort will require the best of our people -- and I think it w
get the best of our people. It will ask us to plan for the future. It will ask
us to be open to new ideas, not to be hide bound and believe that we car
the
future through the prism of the past. But it will ask us to hold on to the c
values that lifted our senior citizen from the burden of abject poverty to
dignity of a deserved good, solid old age.
We can do this. President Roosevelt often called us to the spirit of bold,
persistent experimentation. We will have to do that. But he also remindc
that our greatest challenges we can only meet as one nation. And we mu
remember that. With our increasing diversity, and the way we work and
and
our racial and ethnic and other backgrounds — religious backgrounds —
still
have to be, when it comes to treating people with dignity and fulfilling c
obligations to one another, one nation.
It's what Thomas Jefferson did when he purchased the Louisiana Territc
and sent
Lewis and Clark on their famous expedition. It's what Abraham Lincoln
when
at the height of the Civil War, he and the Congress took the time to estal
a
system of land grant colleges, which revolutionized the future of Amerii
It's
what we Americans did when, in the depths of the Depression, when pe,
were
only concerned about the moment, and 25 percent of the American peop
were out
of work, our Congress and our President still took the time to establish i
Social
Security system, that could only take flower and have full impact long a
they
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were gone.
That is what we do when we do best — what Professor Quigley called "f
Thank you very much. (Applause.)
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preference." What I prefer is a future in which my generation can retire,
those
who are not as fortunate as me can retire in dignity, but we can do it in z
that does not burden you and your ability to raise our grandchildren. Bei
I
believe the best days of this country lie ahead of us if we fulfill our
responsibilities today for tomorrow.
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Q Is there anything you think we don't know about it already?
MR. TOIV: Yes.
Q What?
And let's start with Gene.
MR. SPERLING: Helen, thanks for the rousing reception, enthusiasm.
Q There are a few other things on the plate.
Q I grant you that.
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MR. TOIV: Good afternoon, everybody. We are going to start off today
a
briefing by Gene Sperling on the President's Social Security initiative. X
MR. SPERLING: Thank you. The President in his State of the Union,
essentially
announced a three-part announcement which was, number one, that all c
future
surpluses should be reserved until there was a comprehensive Social Sei
MR. SPERLING: Not that are important to more people's lives than Soc
Security.
solution, until we know how much of those surpluses might be needed t
part of
that Social Security long-term solution; that secondly, that the following
months
should be a period in which we elevate the Social Security challenge; ar
that,
sort of done this once, but nobody was able to pay attention to it, and so
we're
going to do it again. So Gene ought to be helpful to you on that.
MR. TOIV: Well, Gene is going to let you know that. And after Gene g<
we're
going to have our three-headed monster sort of brief you in place of Mil
who,
as you all know, is in the Northeast today. And what we're going to try £
do
is Ann, of course, will brief on foreign policy stuff; Joe will brief on sor
the matters that he's been handling lately; and I'll sort of clean up the res
And so we'll try to do the briefing in such a way that we don't keep wall
back
and forth here. We won't hold you all to that, but let's try and do it in soi
sort of order that way.
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Q The President didn't say whether he would go to Kansas City.
Q Where is he going March 21st to kick off the Pew thing?
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Today was a kickoff for that second part, the elevating the Social Securi
challenge, and doing so through education, through creating public and
political
pressure for action, and through a careful effort to try to keep this debatt
balanced and bipartisan during this time period, so there truly is the
capability
for the type of bipartisan atmosphere next year that will allow us to have
chance of getting Social Security reform completed.
MR. SPERLING: He will. The President will attend the first forum in
Kansas
City. And we are doing outreach and hope that members of the Republic
leadership and the Democratic leadership would also attend. The Speakc
than $10 million on an effort to elevate this. And March 21st is a 10-city
interactive teleconference in 10 cities. And the President will go there ai
kick that off.
number three, that we have a strong commitment to actually getting
legislation
done, starting in January of '99.
The President at that day - or in our briefings announced that in an effo
make sure elevating the Social Security challenge was balanced and fair
had
asked the Concord Coalition - which is, as many of you know, started
initially
by Paul Tsongas and Warren Rudman and Pete Peterson, and now also
includes Sam
Nunn and Tim Penny as leaders and has been a main force for fiscal
discipline —
would be one of the co-sponsors as well as the AARP.
Today we announced that the first of those would be on April 7th in Kai
City.
The President also announced that he would kickoff the Pew Foundatioi
effort
- their calling Americans to discuss Social Security. They are spending
called for similar types of forums and has spoken supportively of the no
of
saving Social Security first, or using the surplus first to see how much -
saving it to see how much is needed for Social Security. But we have tai
with
many people and we're hoping to have a very significant turn out, or at 1
support and participation for.
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gave a speech where he laid out in detail a coming entitlement challenge
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That was one of the charts that the President showed, ad that explains w
the
poverty rate for elderly Americans has gone from 35.2 percent to 15.2
percent in
1979. It was 12.9 percent in 1992, and is now at 10.8 percent.
Today, the President also went through a few of the main issues. I think
today, in my memory, was the first time a President of the United States
MR. SPERLING: It would actually be -- he'd be doing that from satellit
from
here, which is where the linkage is for the 10 cities.
Social Security, and laid out very specifically what the nature of the
challenge
is. I think that is significant and I think, obviously, in speaking to a colk
campus, trying to send the message that this is not about simply the non
politics of entitlements that we have seen often over the last decade, but
about
a real effort at generational equity, at fixing this problem in a way that
supports the retirement security of people in the future, but does so in a
preventative way so that it's not dealt with in a crisis at a later time in w
it may require significant burdens on people trying to both raise their
children
and support the Social Security system at a later point.
Let me mention something I don't know if the President did mention, bu
think
it shows the power of Social Security. The elderly poverty rate is 10.8
percent.
If you were to simply subtract Social Security the elderly poverty rate w
jump to 48 percent. So, but for Social Security, the poverty rate of elder
Let me just quickly note the things that he mentioned. Social Security ir
1959,
one of the charts he had, was at — I'm sorry -- in 1959, the poverty rate 1
elderly Americans in our country was at 35.2 percent. That was largely
because
Social Security had not really spread to the public in a general way. Not
enough
people were fully - had fully worked enough to get the benefits, nor hat
had
the disability protections that we have now. So from 1955, when there v
7.5
million people in Social Security, to 25 million in 1970, there are now 4
million, including 7 million who get help from the disability part of Soc
Security.
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The President also talked about the fact that essentially that is because S
problem that can be dealt with later and that every Congress will kick th
issue over the next two years. And the President's speech today will be t
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And so this is a serious matter and it is a serious issue to try and elevate
this debate in a way that we can do this in 1999. Some of the biggest thr
to
Social Security reform will be the temptation of elected officials to kick
can down the road, that no matter what we do, that they will feel that thi
down the road another year, another two years, until rather than prevent
crisis, we have a crisis.
are not enough to cover the benefits going out. Because there is still inte
coming into the Social Security trust fund, the Social Security trust fund
continues to improve to 2019. At that point, the receipts coming in plus
interest are not enough to cover the benefits going out to Social Securitj
recipients. So that at that point in 2019, the Social Security trust fund
becomes depleted; until 2029 it is not able to pay a benefits or would ha
pay out over that period only 75 percent of benefits.
The other chart that the President showed showed that the Social Securi
becomes insolvent in 2029. Essentially the problem comes even quicker
in
2012 in which the receipts coming into the Treasury are less than the be
Americans would jump from 10.8 percent to 48 percent, which shows I
very
powerfully its significance.
And if you look at what we have done by making a national effort to ele
the
challenge, by saying that none of the surplus can be used for other funds
sources or priorities until Social Security is dealt with. We are very, I th
carefully trying to put pressure on our political system to try to deal witl
Security is a commitment of people working today to ensure retirement
those
retiring now -- on the commitment that the future work force will do the
same.
And the problem that we have that he tried to show quite graphically on
chart
is that while in 1960 there were 5.1 percent workers for every person
retiring,
that has now gone to 3.3 people working per retiree. And by the year 20
there
will be only 2 workers for every person retiring. And that is very much 1
heart of the problem and the reason that there is a need to fix that now.
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first of many efforts by this administration to push out that message.
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think with the President's simple declaration that none of the surplus she
be
used until we have fixed Social Security, I feel that the debate has very i
for either tax cuts or spending programs. You have both Democrats and
Republicans looking at the surplus as a way of solving highway needs, i
Q How much support do you have from the Republicans, in addition to
Gingrich?
Q Gene, the President was saying today whaf s wrong with Social Secur
talking about the problems. When will he offer his ideas about what a
solution
to this problem is? A lot of people think he's got a lot of political capital
now, maybe he should spend some of that by standing up and offering a
And I do think one should not underestimate that prior to the State of th
Union
we were seeing almost the beginning of a feeding frenzy on how the sur
would
be used for various different priorities, and that because of the President
declaration we now have close to a consensus that our surplus should be
saved
until we fix Social Security.
But the question is will it lead to Social Security reform, or what best w
increase the prospect of Social Security reform? It is our opinion — and
maybe
shifted and, in fact, most of the debate now has been more on what wou
happen
with a hypothetical tobacco legislation.
actually pass Social Security reform. I think that — certainly, I think our
economic team would be capable of coming up with a decent plan that I
could
support.
MR. SPERLING: Well, I think, as the Post article and others have show
think
that the President's announcement at the State of the Union on saving Sc
Security first has fundamentally changed the political debate. I think if j
look just in the prior weeks, you had a prominent Republican calling foi
using
$200 billion of the surplus for tax cuts. You have, 1 think several people
the Democratic Party as well looking at options, I think, for using the su
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and I would ask you to ask other people who care about Social Security
reform
about this - but it is their and our concern that were the President or on<
the major leaders to come out with a specific detailed plan prior to the
election, that it carries with it the risk that that would become a source o
political gunfire prior to the election and that that could actually reduce
rather than increase the prospects of Social Security reform.
Q You said that in the past you used the budget surpluses to pay down tl
national debt while you were waiting for a solution on Social Security. I
MR. SPERLING: I'm glad that you asked that because there's been a lot
think confusion maybe on that. Partly that's because this topic of the tru:
fund is certainly a complex one. But let me try to be clear.
right or wrong — but it is our opinion that creating an atmosphere where
there
could be a bipartisan centrist solution to Social Security is the best hope
that happening. And it is our concern and the concern of many, many ot
use it to pay down the national debt, how do you then retrieve the surph
if
you decide you need them to shore up Social Security?
Our position was that nobody should pass legislation that drains the surj
no
one pass legislation that drains or spends the surplus until we know how
much of
the surplus is needed for a comprehensive Social Security plan. Under o
planning, under our prospects, we see that — we don't see a surplus in ar
significant form happening during the time period we are trying to get tl
done.
If our calculation on that were to change at some point, that would chan
our
view. But right now I think the best thing we could do is use this year to
to have the kind of atmosphere we had in '97 in the balanced budget
agreement,
where we I think helped create an atmosphere where we could get togetl
and come
up with a bipartisan plan that might be harder for any person to do alone
And I'd just say we had $400 billion of Medicare savings over 10 years,
don't
believe that if either the Democrats or Republicans had made that their
platform
in '97, that that would have happened. I think what happened is that we
able to work together and come up with that at one time in a way that th
was
significant buy-off.
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Q What's your answer to Republican criticism that if the President was i
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was very serious about saving Social Security first that money from the
settlement would be devoted to the Social Security trust fund and not to
various new programs that you delineated in the budget.
very serious about saving Social Security first that money from the tax
settlement would be going to Social Security and not to all the various
programs
that you've delineated in the budget.
MR SPERLING: We are being consistent since the '92 campaign -- that
believe
I guess my answer is, under our projections we're hoping that will not b<
necessary. But it is not inconsistent with our view, and if a surplus stark
accumulate and people thought that was a reasonable idea, it would cert
be
something we would be willing to consider. But the important thing is tl
under
any of these scenarios we shouldn't spend the money. I think if a few bil
of
that simply goes to paying down the debt while we're solving this probk
don't feel that's inconsistent with the President's proposal. But neither de
think it's inconsistent if others down the road see a surplus accumulating
while
we're still debating Social Security reform and want to come up with soi
form of
legislative device for saving or protecting that.
So, in other words, our budget - our hope is to have Social Security ref
by
the end of fiscal year '99. So it is our -- we are trying to get this done on
timetable in which we do not believe - or we do not project that a surpl
would
have accumulated much at that time.
Now, the question is what if, in this time period, prior to the end of fiset
year '99 when we're trying to get Social Security reform, you're asking y
happens if the surplus does emerge. What would happen if there's no
legislation
is it just buys down the debt. And the question is if there was a decent
amount
of a surplus is there some mechanism in which you would try to save th;
keep
those savings available for the Social Security trust fund.
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counting on the younger people in generating the momentum or someth
significant momentum over all of this?
Q Gene, the President made his speech today in front of college student:
opposed to a traditional Social Security lobby like AARP or something.
We've also always at the same time argued that you need more public
investment
in areas like education and training. And if you could do that in a fiscall
responsible way in which you paid for that, that was the right strategy. 1
that you had to have an economic strategy that increased both public
investment
and private investment. You increased private investment by reducing tl
debt,
increasing more savings and, therefore, lower interest rates that spur pri
sector investment.
the strategy we've had in every single budget. And so what we're saying
what the President said at this State of the Union, was that for anybody ’
has
new priorities — him or anyone else — they should continue to do it und<
that
discipline. And that discipline being that the discipline of the budget nil
the pay as you go budget rules - that if you're going to spend a dollar, y
paid for that dollar somewhere else. That's the discipline what we're livi
in.
What we can have now is a separate question of additional money comii
- not
money that somebody got from a budget cut or new revenue increase, bi
money
coming in because the strategy has been working and because we've hac
stronger
economy. And what we wanted to say there is let's not break our fiscal
discipline and essentially treat that as free money that you now break th<
budget
rules and start spending that for everyone's priorities. Let's realize that v
still have a major commitment on Social Security and reserve the funds
we
know how much of that may or may not be required to fix long-term So
Security.
MR. SPERLING: I think it's more that he wants to make clear what he t
to
say in the speech in the State of the Union when he said whether you're
50,
or just starting to put money in Social Security trust fund. I think he wai
make sure that when people hear him talking about Social Security that
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So I think he very much wants to make sure - and I think he said this to
would be hard for them to support their own children.
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So I think you'll see a conscious effort to have a Social Security fix that
fair in terms of generational equity, and that as his message goes out, he
making sure that he's trying to talk to different age groups and give then
very
much the same message as to why we should all care about this kind of
intergenerational justice.
that his message is an intergenerational message and that he speaks to b‘
the
young people, to baby boomers, and to older people. And I thought he s
eloquently today about the fact that people his age who are looking at th
retirement want to make sure Social Security is there for them, but not i)
way
that would make their children face such high tax burdens in the future 1
Q Gene, it's not clear to me why you think the — or why the President th
the American people need a year to understand what the problem is witl
Social
Security. What is it you're trying to prepare the American people for dui
this year? Why not just call in the congressional leaders now and start w
on
this and not wait a year?
don't
think that this is just about the temporary battles that people have seen g
on back and forth over the last 5-10 years on Medicare, Medicaid, or otl
issues, but that this is truly about long-term reform and wants to make s’
that
younger people understand that he — that this effort is about helping the
and
that somebody who is 33 today will turn 65 in 2029 and that they shouk
very
deeply about this, and that they should not feel that Social Security is as
likely to occur for them as seeing a UFO.
MR. SPERLING: Look, you have to make your best judgment. I consul
I
personally consulted with virtually every major group on this issue, and
of
them felt - the people surveying this, spending a lot of money, people tl
thought had good political judgment - that if you went into an issue like
and you tried to go forward immediately with reform before the Americ
people
fully understood the nature of the problem, before they had a chance to i
look
at that, that if you rushed into that in the middle of a political year, that
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this could too easily become a subject for political cross-fire and that w<
would
end up setting the clock back.
Q Gene, did you have any misgivings about doing these regional forumi
under the
imprimatur of the AARP? In the past they've been the ones vigorously
opposed to
entitlement reform. And although they say this time they're willing to
entertain
the idea, it may be that they're going to be opposed to the more aggressi
attempts at reform that may be necessary.
Certainly if a situation created itself earlier, if people came together we
certainly would not be opposed to that. We're simply making our best
judgment as
to what the best chances for getting that done. And I can say that it is a
judgment shared by groups across the political spectrum.
So I understand that anytime you go out and you make a bold, specific
proposal
on any area you get nice feedback for a day or a week, but that wasn't th
question. The question is how can we actually get long-term Social Sect
reform. And it is our judgment that trying to elevate this debate and tryii
keep it bipartisan and trying to create an imperative for action and trying
keep that atmosphere during the period prior to the election creates the I
possibility that after the election there could be a chance for bipartisan a
long-term Social Security reform.
So instead of one political party or the other putting on one of these fon.
in
which either people would be suspect that it was being tilted towards a
particular agenda or that it was too difficult to confront any of the serioi
issues because it would be seen as being read as indicating a position fo
against an issue - that if you put this in the hands of two groups that tog
people would view as balanced, that it would give people on both sides
the
aisle and of different views the confidence that these would be balanced
fair
and someplace they could go talk to.
MR. SPERLING: Well, the thing you need to understand is that it's beir
done
jointly under the AARP and the Concord Coalition. So it is being done
jointly
under them. And what we were trying to do is to have two organization'
I
think are familiar to all of you that would be responsible for ensuring th
there is a sense of balance there.
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Q Can we do this one last question? Gingrich last week asked the
administration
for specific legislative language on how to handle the reserve. You seen
be
saying today that, you know, people can suggest that themselves if they
Some have suggested that bonds could be — federal debt, rather than bei
retired, could be transferred to the Social Security trust fund to help
that, you're not going to do it. Why would you not back up your own
proposal
with legislation?
You know, I should say that we will be working with many other group:
the
National Council of Aging, the Older Women's League, the National Cc
of
Seniors, the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medic;
with
Martha McSteen and Max Richtman - and certainly other groups that h
focused
more from the deficit reduction side like CSIS, which has been holding
forums on
this issue.
But no, I think that having two groups that are seen to people as represe:
different perspectives and who are committed to trying to make sure thii
are
balanced, I think that works. Certainly, we've gotten criticism from peoj
who
don't like the AARP and people who don’t like the Concord Coalition. E
our
argument is together they're an insurance policy that this will most likel;
as
balanced and fair as anything that you've probably seen recently in term
MR. SPERLING: There's two questions -- let me just say - there's two
issues on
the surplus. One is if you have long-term Social Security reform, and th«
surplus was going to be used as part of that reform — so, in other words,
you
had a comprehensive Social Security solution and part of the solution w
using
the surplus, how would the surplus be used. On that, you've already heai
from
several different people in the political spectrum, different ideas. I don’t
think there's any shortage of ideas on how the surplus could be used.
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The second issue is, what if while we're waiting for Social Security refo
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few billion dollars of surplus happens. That was the question I was aske
where
right now, by budget rules it would pay down the debt. And our view is
we
don't foresee that as being a significant problem because we're trying to
this done in the next year and a half, when we do not project there wouL
a
significant surplus.
strengthen the Social Security trust fund. That is one idea that some hav
out. I believe that Bob Reischauer and Henry Aaron have at least been
talking
informally with people about whether money could be used - surplus cc
be used
for equity investments that could strengthen the surplus.
That obviously will be controversial with many people. Others, I think 1
Senator Gregg and others have said the surplus could be used to help a
transition
towards a partly pre-funded system. I am not — let me make clear — not
endorsing nor criticizing any of those. I am just saying that there are ma
suggestions already as to the mechanics as to how the surplus could be i
Our
opinion is that we should wait and see how the surplus or a portion of th
surplus fits into a comprehensive Social Security reform.
But what I said was that if a surplus were to start accumulating before
had a
comprehensive Social Security trust fund, and some said it turned out th
there
was $20 billion or $25 billion dollars accumulating, rather than having t
pay
down the debt, they wanted to somehow keep that savings in play for lo
term
Social Security reform. My answer was we don't project that to be neces
but
if that situation arose it would not be inconsistent with our position. Ant
certainly would be willing to consider that that type of option — if the
situation arose and people thought it was necessary, to stay consistent w
our
save Social Security first pledge.
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you, too.
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I was trying to think of what I ought to say tonight that you haven't alret
heard. One thing I thought, when Bill talked about what a meritocracy
Silicon
Valley was, and it didn't matter where you came from as long as you coi
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for coming here, and thank you for going on
Politically
Incorrect and sticking up for me tonight. (Laughter.) It's truly strange th
that would be politically incorrect to do, but that's all right. (Laughter.)
Thank you, Congressman Miller, and thank you, Nancy Pelosi, for bein;
here and
for your leadership. I told some people — we were just at a larger recept
over at the Fairmont, and I told the people there that the thing I really lil
about Nancy Pelosi was she'd been in Washington a long time and she s
had not
managed to become cynical. She's still full of energy and passion and
conviction. And we need more of that there.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. You know, that was a better speech thai
one I
was going to give. (Laughter.) Thank you, Bill. Thank you, Sally. I am
delighted to be here - it's a beautiful, beautiful place. It's been a great
dinner, interesting people. Thank all of you for being here and supportir
these fine candidates.
I want to thank Mike and Lois for running for Congress. (Applause.) Th
are
prepared to make a not insignificant sacrifice in the quality of their life t
there and serve you. And they will serve us well.
I have a lot of friends here, but I want to say I'm especially glad to see E
and Lee Perry. Bill Perry is one of the finest public servants that has ser
the United States in my lifetime, one of the greatest Secretaries of Defei
we
ever had and I thank him for being here. (Applause.)
I'd also like to thank all of you in this room who have helped me and Hi
and Al and Tipper in our wonderful journey these last several years; anc
people of California, and the people of this community, in particular, ha
been
very, very good to us and I'm profoundly grateful. And to those of you
who've
helped us, especially on the technology issues over the last five years, I
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invest more in education and health care and the environment.
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But all that means is that more people have good life stories to tell. And
yet, if we think about the dynamism of this time - it's not true that the
society is changing as fast or as profoundly as the Internet is growing, ft
example. But it's changing about as fast or as profoundly as a human
organism
can change. And, therefore, we need to be thinking always about the fut
and
what we're doing to prepare for this new century we're about to enter. A
The country is in good shape. I hope that doesn't mean that we are feelir
complacent or that we're going to take our eye off the ball and become r
small
minded when we ought to become more large minded and more visiona
And that's
basically what I was trying to say in the State of the Union. And I feel -
glad that my fellow Democrats can go into this election cycle and say w
proved
that you could reduce the size of government and balance the budget am
program
a computer - you know, you could become a partner. I thought, my Got
had
made my career there I'd be starving now. (Laughter.) Never has one so
technologically challenged tried so hard to do so much for high technok
in
America.
Our country is in good shape tonight and I'm very grateful for that. Whe
you
made that crack about how could you still be a Republican, I used to kic
Dole
about every time the stock market would go up another 100 points I'd sa
here I
am working to get you more money for your campaign. (Laughter.) It w
against
my self-interest, but I did it anyway. It was good for the country.
We proved that you could have a partnership with business and still be
compassionate toward working people. We proved that you could be foi
creating
more jobs and still for giving people the support they need to succeed w
their
families at home - with child care and things like that. I'm glad we can
that. Or we can just reel the numbers off and say we've got the lowest
unemployment rate in 24 years, the lowest crime rate in 24 years, the Ic
smallest welfare rolls in 27 years, the lowest inflation in 30 years, the hi
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First of all, it's important to keep the economy growing. It may be that
technology with good economic conditions will permit a higher level of
growth for
a longer period of time at lower levels of inflation than previously we h<
thought. That may be true. It will only be true if we are responsible. Am
just like to mention three or four things tonight that I think are terribly
important.
of the things that to me has been most gratifying has been the public
response to
my insistence that we not start spending the surplus before it materialize
We've had a deficit for 30 years and, you know, as soon as the new year
came
around everybody had great ideas for how to spend the projected surplu;
Now, I do believe we have eliminated the structural deficit and I believe
we'll
get a balanced budget this year — if not this year, certainly next year. Ar
then it's projected that we'll have surpluses for several years thereafter, r
than a decade. And I hope that happens. And because there's no structur
deficit in the budget — that is, even if the economy slows down, and yot
know
when the economy slows down you get less tax money and you have to
more out
because there are more people unemployed — but over time, if there's nc
structural deficit we'll still have a balanced budget to a large surplus,
depending on how much growing.
Now, what my goal is, is to spend this year having a non-partisan natior
process by which we discuss all the alternatives that are out there availa
and
then early next year we pass legislation which will basically take care ol
long-term stability of the system. Simultaneously, no matter what optioi
choose, by 2029 when the present trust fund is expected to run out of m<
and
start costing more money than the people are paying in every year in tax
we
will have to do some significant things. But no matter what we do, not r
There are a lot of people who want to start spending that right now in ta
cuts
or spending programs, and we should do neither. We certainly shouldn't
it, A,
until it materializes - the bird is not in hand yet. And, B, we should not
it until we have dealt with the long-term financial problems with the So<
Security system. We have some significant decisions to make. And I thi
it's
very important. (Applause.)
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It is well not to underestimate the good these programs have done. In IS
for
the first time in the history of our country, the poverty rate among peopl
over
65 was lower than the poverty rate of people under 65. When Social Sec
was
inaugurated, over 70 percent of the American people over 65 were livin;
poverty. Many of them were living in abject poverty. This is a terrific
achievement for our country. And while I have emphasized putting mon
emphasis
on the children in this country in poverty and more on their health care,
education, their nutrition, their well being, we do not want to give up thi
signal achievement that is really a mark of a decent society. And, yet, in
order
to avoid it we're going to have to plan for it and deal with the fact that rr
generation, the baby boomers - and I'm the oldest of them - when
everybody from
my age to 18 years younger crowds into the Social Security system, the
And, by the way, we have a simultaneous effort going on now with
Medicare. We
have more than a decade of life on the Medicare trust fund. But, again, t
pure
demographics of the baby boom retirements and the fact that we're livin
longer
and accessing more high tech medicine mean that we're going to have tc
make some
changes in Medicare if we expect it to sustain itself well into the next
century.
and
not then will Social Security be enough for most Americans - the vast,
majority of Americans - to maintain the standard of living they enjoy o
they
retire. Therefore, we also have to find ways for people to save more and
prepare more for their own retirement. So we're going to be looking at a
of
interesting ideas in the Social Security system. And I hope all of you wi
enter that debate.
But as I said in the State of the Union address, it's literally true, there w<
a public opinion survey done last year which showed that most people u
25
thought it was more likely that they would see a UFO than that they woi
ever
draw a penny of Social Security. I don't want to discourage young peopl
from
watching the X-Files — (laughter) — but I think we have to somehow re^
that
perception. So that's the first thing I want to say.
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Medicare
system, all this is going to change everything substantially.
And we owe it - and I don't know anybody - and most of the people I [
up
with are middle class people, more than half of them don't have college
educations, the people I went to high school with. And I was with a bun
them not very long ago and we all sat around the table and every one of
is
haunted by the idea that when we retire we would have to impose an
unwarranted
financial burden on our children and on their ability to raise our
grandchildren
in order to take care of us. Nobody wants that. And we have an opportm
now,
by acting now, to make relatively modest steps that will have relatively
impacts in the years to come if we do it. So that's the first and very impc
It's literally true today that if you're willing to work for it, you can go to
college. And community college is virtually free now. For people who g
community colleges, that $1,500 tax deduction covers all the tuition for
about 80
percent of the community colleges in the country. And there's a great se
of
achievement there. Why? Because people know it really means somethi
have
higher education in America. And they know we have the best system o
higher
education in the world.
The second point I'd like to make is that we have a lot of work to do in t
country on education. And many of you have helped us in our goal of
hooking up
every classroom and library to the Internet by the year 2000. We're mak
good
progress on that. But consider the anomaly in the United States -- one ol
things that I could just feel during the State of the Union resonating witl
people at home was when I went through all the things we'd done to inc:
aid
to
people who go on to college. Basically, now most Americans qualify
$1,500 tax credit, tax reduction for the first two years of college and a U
credit for junior and senior year in graduate school. And there are more
Grant scholarships at higher income levels. There are education IRAs, y
can
deduct the interest on the student loan. The people that are in our direct
program can get cheaper college loans with better repayment terms. The
are
300,000 more work study slots out there.
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The next issue I'd like to mention that I think has great relevance to the
future is the environment. This year the two major — I'm very proud of t
the world. Because we're kidding ourselves if we think we can really bu
truly meritocratic society if a bunch of people are stunted coming out of
blocks.
No one believes we have the best system of elementary and secondary
education in
the world. We just got the results of the Third International Math and
Science
Survey, which is given to several thousand --1 think about 20,000 -- but
representative sample of our high school seniors. And of 21 countries w
scored
19th. Now, in the Sth grade were in the middle; in the 4th grade we're n<
the
top now - we tied for second in the 4th grade test.
What happens? There are lots of reasons for what happens. But we've b<
trying to unpack that. But I do not believe it is any longer acceptable to
well, what do you expect, because we have so many poor kids, 20 perce
our
kids are in poverty and we have so minority kids and all that. That is all
bunch of bull. This is not rocket science. I mean, Sally just introduced u
that magnificent young woman who's a student at Stanford. I believe all
can
learn. I believe 90 percent-plus of us can learn 100 percent of what we r
to
know to make a society go, otherwise democracies would all fail. And ii
would
have happened long ago.
didn't mention this before, but compared to five years ago the air is clea:
the water is cleaner, there are fewer toxic waste dumps and the food sup
is
safer. And we have set aside more land and trust to be saved than any
I have supported the charter school movement and school choice and a 1
other things. But we have got to have also more standards and more
emphasis on
teaching and a lot of other reforms in the schools. We've got a big progr
out
there now to lower class sizes and do a number of other things in this se
of
Congress. But I intend to spend a huge amount of effort in the next thret
years
to do what I spent the 20 years before I became President working on in
public
life, and that is trying to give us the best elementary and secondary systc
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administration in the history of the country, except the administrations c
Theodore and Franklin Roosevelt. And I'm very proud of that. We're
working on
saving Lake Tahoe now and I'm very proud of that. (Applause.)
But there is still a great deal to be done, and on two issues in particular
which will affect the quality of life in California. The first is with regarc
clean water. The Clean Water Act, which was passed 25 years ago, was
designed to
deal with pollution mostly coming out of sewage systems and out of
industrial
activities - so-called point source pollution. Bad stuff comes out of a pi
goes in the water, clean it up. Forty percent of our waterways in Americ
still not pure enough to swim and fish in because of non-point pollution
things that run off from the land. We have got to do more on that. So we
have a
major initiative on that, a new clean water initiative.
The other thing that I think is imperative that we get on is — and you're
dealing with it right now with El Nino
-- the climate change phenomenon is real and we must do what we can t
meet
America's responsibility to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. We can de
and
still grow the economy. Every time we've had to face a clean air or cleai
water
issues people have said, oh, if you do this it's going to shut the economy
down.
And every time we've done it, it has given the economy a boost because
opened up a whole new area of high tech jobs that we didn't have before
Now, basically, a third of all these CO2 emissions come from transporte
a
third come from buildings, homes and office buildings; and a third corm
from
manufacturing plants and electric generators. And the technology is nov
available, right now, to reduce substantially our greenhouse gas emissio
with available technology that pays out in two to three years, with regan
buildings, office buildings, homes, manufacturing facilities and electric
generators. And with the new fuel injection engines that are being devel
for
automobiles with the hybrid electric in fuel and gasoline engines and a 1
the other things that are going on, within two or three years you're goin£
look at automobiles that have literally one-fourth to one-fifth of greenhc
gas
emissions of today's automobiles. This is an imperative thing to do and i
hope
all of you will support this, because we have a good program going thro
Congress and I think we'll pass it. But it's important.
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The last thing I'd like to say is this: I have tried very hard to change the
political culture of Washington with, you would have to charitably say,
mixed
results. (Laughter.) I don't even understand it half the time. I realize I'm
afflicted by the fact that I had a real life for too long.
The last thing I'd like to say is, Bill talked about research. Hillary gave i
the idea of trying to have a part of our program this year be a gift to the
millennium that would be part respecting the past and part imagining th<
future.
The respecting of the past part, we're going to try to restore the Constitu
the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Star-Spangk
Banner,
and get people in every community in the country to do an inventory of
they
have.
But I will say this: I think that the work we're doing in this Race Initiati1
the campaign for the employment non-discrimination act, the efforts to 1
America together across all the lines that divide us and to have everyboc
judged
based on their merit, and to give everybody a chance, and to build an
America
that basically is a stunning contrast to the racial and ethnic and religious
conflicts that are beleaguering the world
- how much of your time as President - because my time is really your
has
been spent in my presidency on the problems of my people in Northern
Ireland —
my people — still arguing over things that happened 600 years ago, or th
But we also have to recognize that in the years we were running these hi
deficits, we wound up under-investing in a lot of things we should have
invested
more in, principally research. So we've also offered the biggest research
budget
in the history of the country in this balanced budget. And I hope we can
it
and I hope all of you will help us pass it because it's a big part of our fut
For example, there's a place called the Old Soldiers Home in Washingto
D.C,
that was built before the Civil War. And on the Old Soldiers Home then
cabin which is almost totally dilapidated now, where Abraham Lincoln':
family
lived every summer — and other presidents. It wouldn't cost that much t(
restore it. It's a Washington, D.C. facility. Every single community in th
country has places in it that tell the part of America's story and they hav
be preserved.
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continuing torment in the Middle East, or what happened in Bosnia, or t
to
save all those children from the horrible fate they were facing in Rwand
all
these places. We're supposed to be living in this great modem world, yo
hook everybody up to an Internet, but if they still have primitive impuk
then
they just have modern technology to give greater vent with greater inter)
to
primitive impulses.
I want us to have a strong economy and I want us to always be on the
forefront
of every new thing that happens. But in the end, we have to prove that v
can be
one nation together. And I try to end all my talks now by just reminding
everybody that the people that came here to start this country came here
because
they literally deplored the unlimited, arbitrary, abusive exercise of powe
over
the lives of citizens. And they had a better idea. They said, we want to b
free and we want to be free to pursue happiness — not have it guaranteec
us,
free to pursue it; and in the process, we will work to form a more perfec
union.
Now these people you're supporting here and the party we represent -- y
we've
modernized the Democratic Party. Thank you, Bill. And, yes, they can't
all
those bad things about Democrats they used to say. But if you look at th
whole
20th century, if you go right back to Woodrow Wilson forward, our cou
has
always been for those things. We've always been for more freedom, moi
opportunity, and a stronger union. Which means even when we haven't I
right
on the issues, we've been on the right side of America's history. And I'm
proud
to be here with you, Mike. I'm proud to be here with my good friend, Lc
And
I'm proud to be here with a party that I think can lead America to a bette
place
in the new century.
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ADDRESS BY THE PRESIDENT
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Office of the Press Secretary
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Remarks by the President
Address by the President to a National
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I thank the members of our administration who have come who will be
participating: the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, Fn
Raines;
the Deputy Secretary of the Treasury, Larry Summers; the Director of tl
National
Economic Council, Gene Sperling; and the Administrator of Social
Security, Ken
Apfel.
Attorney General Nixon, Treasurer Graeber, Insurance Commissioner
Sebelius,
thank you all for being here. Mayor Cleaver, thank you for hosting us. I
don't
know if Mayor Marinovich is here or not, but if she is, hello. (Laughter.
I'd also like to thank the leaders of the AARP, including Horace Deets,
and the
leaders of the Concord Coalition, including Martha Phillips, for their
hosting of
this forum. The AARP has long been a leading voice for the elderly, the
Concord
Coalition long a leading voice for fiscal responsibility over the long run
and
their willingness to work together is very important. I'd also like to than
the
Speaker of the House, the Senate Majority Leader, and the House and
Senate
Democratic leaders for nominating and being represented here today by
the members
of Congress who are on the program.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Good
morning. Thank
you, Governor Carnahan, for your leadership on so many areas and youi
friendship.
I'd like to thank the leaders of this fine institution for welcoming us here
and
for the mission they perform every day. I thank Senators Kerrey and
Santorum for
their concern, longstanding, for Social Security reform and their present
here,
and Representatives Hulshof and Pomeroy, who are participating in the
program,
and Representative McCarthy, and also Representative David Dreier fro
California, who is a native of Kansas City, who are here.
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For too long, politicians have called Social Security the "third rail" of
American politics. That's Washington language for, it's above serious
debate.
This year we must prove them wrong. This conference, with its wide
participation, is a good start. On the political calendar, 1998 is an electic
Today we turn to the business at hand -- building public awareness of th
nature
and scope of the problem, and building public consensus for the best
changes.
Clearly, we will strengthen Social Security and reform it only if we reac
across
lines of party, philosophy, and generation. And that is one reason for the
broad
representation of age groups in this audience today. We have to have op
minds
and generous spirits. And we all have to be willing to listen and to learn
to prepare our nation for the challenges and the opportunities of the 21 si
century - or in the words of the old saying, to fix the roof while the sun
shining. In the coming century, the aging of our society will present boti
great
challenges and great opportunities. I hope to live to be one of those peoj
and
so, to me, it's a high-class problem.
hope.
Our economy is the strongest in a generation. Many of our social proble
are on
the mend. Our leadership in the world is unrivalled. Within the next yea
we
will have a balanced budget. And where once there were deficits project
as far
as the eye can see, we now have projected surpluses as far as the eye cai
see —
a trillion dollars' worth over the next decade.
But because a higher percentage of our people will be both older and
retired,
perhaps our greatest opportunity and our greatest obligation at this
moment is to
save Social Security. In the State of the Union address, I called on
Congress to
set aside every penny of any surplus until we had dealt with Social
Security
first. Both parties in both chambers of Congress have joined in this call.
That
is the good news.
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million Americans depend upon Social Security, and for two-thirds of o
senior
citizens it is the main source of income. For 18 percent of our seniors it
the only source of income.
year. But on the Social Security calendar, we must resolve to make it an
education year, when we come to grips with the problems of the system
and come
together to find the answers.
This issues is complicated, so we need the best ideas - whatever their
source.
The issue is controversial, so we have to have a national consensus on
both the
nature of the problem and the direction we must take.
Missouri's native son, Mark Twain, once said, "I've come loaded with
statistics,
for I've noticed a man can't prove anything without statistics." So I thou,
we
would begin today with a few statistics. Today, as the first chart shows,
But Social Security is more than just a retirement program. Today you c
see
that more than one in three of the beneficiaries are not retirees. They are
children and spouses of working people who die in their prime. They an
men and
women who become disabled, or their children.
That's why I've asked all the members of Congress to also host town hal
meetings in their own districts. I'll be talking with several of them by
satellite later today. And we'll hold more additional forums like this one
around the country. In December, there will be a White House Conferer
on
Social Security. In January, I intend to convene the leaders of Congress
draft a plan to save it. With this effort we can forge a national consensus
and
we must.
For 60 years, Social Security has meant more than an ID number on a ta
form,
more than even a monthly check in the mail. It reflects our deepest valui
the
duties we owe to our parents, to each other, to our children and
grandchildren,
to those who misfortune strikes, to our ideals as one America.
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Since its enactment over 60 years ago, Social Security has changed the
face of
America. When President Roosevelt signed the bill creating the Social
Security
system, most seniors in America were poor. A typical elderly person sei
Now, there's something else I want to say about this. Even though most
seniors
need other sources of income in addition to Social Security to maintain ;
comfortable lifestyle: if Social Security did not exist, today half of all
American retirees would be living in poverty -- 60 percent of all women
Fifteen
million American seniors have been lifted out of poverty through the
Social
Security system.
Today the system is sound, but the demographic crisis looming is clear.
The
baby boomers - 76 million of us - are now looking ahead to their
retirement.
And people, clearly, are living longer, so that by 2030, there will be twit
as
many elderly as there are today.
All these trends will impose heavy strains on the system. Let's look at th
next chart here. You can see that in 1960, which wasn't so long ago, thei
were
over five people working for every person drawing Social Security. In
1997, last
year, there were over three people — 3.3 people — working for every
person
drawing. But by 2030, because of the increasing average age, if present
birthrates and immigration rates and retirement rates continue, there wil
be
only two people working for every person drawing Social Security.
to
act with care as we make needed repairs to the program occasioned by t
huge
growth in retirees.
letter to FDR begging him to eliminate "the stark terror of penniless old
age."
Since then, the elderly poverty rate has dropped sharply. You can look
here and
see that in 1959 the poverty rate was over 35 percent for retirees. In 197
it
had dropped to 15.2 percent. In 1996, the poverty rate is down below 11
percent.
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Now, here's the bottom line. The Social Security Trust Fund is sufficien
to
pay all the obligations of Social Security - both retirement and disabilit
until 2029, after which it will no longer cover those obligations. Payroll
contributions will only be enough to cover 75 cents on the dollar of
current
benefits.
So how should we judge the proposals to change the Social Security
system? Here
are principles that I believe we should follow, and they're on the next ch
generation without placing an undue burden on our children and
grandchildren.
And we can do it, if we act now, with changes that will be far simpler ai
easier
than if we wait until the problem is closer at hand. For example, a $100
billion
of the budget surplus, if used for Social Security, would add a year or
more to
the solvency of the Trust Fund with no other changes being made. Othei
changes,
which could be made, can be phased in over time, and keep in mind, sm
changes
decided on now can have huge impacts 30 years from now.
here. I believe, first of all, we have to reform Social Security in a way tl
strengthens and protects a guarantee for the 21st century. We should not
abandon
a basic program that has been one of the greatest successes in our
country's
history.
Third, Social Security must provide a benefit that people can count on.
Regardless of the ups and downs of the economy or the financial markei
we have
Second, we should maintain universality and fairness. For half a centurj
this
has been a progressive guarantee for citizens; we have to keep it that wa
It
was not until 1985 that the poverty rate among seniors was lower than tl
poverty
rate for the population of America as a whole. It is an astonishing
achievement
of our society that it is now so much lower, and we should not give it up
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Thank you very much. (Applause.)
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Fourth, Social Security must continue to provide financial security for
disabled
and low income beneficiaries. We can never forget the one in three Soci
Security beneficiaries who are not retirees.
Now, these are the principles that will guide me as we work to forge a
consensus. I hope they're ones that all of you can also embrace. This
national
effort will call on the best of our people. It will require us to rise above
partisanship. It will require us to plan for the future, to consider new ide
to engage in what President Roosevelt once called "bold, persistent
experimentation." It will remind us that there are some challenges that v
can
only meet as one nation acting through our national government, just as
there are
others we can better meet as individuals, families, communities.
And fifth, anything we do to strengthen Social Security now must
maintain our
hard-won fiscal discipline. It is the source of much of the prosperity we
enjoy
today.
This is also a challenge for every generation. To the older Americans he
today, let me say, you have nothing to worry about. For you Social
Security is
as strong as every. To the younger people here today who may believe t
you
will never see a Social Security check - indeed, I saw a poll which
purported to
be serious that said that Americans in their twenties thought it was more
likely
they would see a U.F.O. than that they would every draw Social Securit
(Laughter.) That skepticism may have been well founded in the past, bu
just as
we put our fiscal house in order, we can and must put Social Security in
order.
And above all, to my fellow baby boomers, let me say that none of us
wants our
own retirement to be a burden to our children and to their efforts to raise
our
grandchildren. It would be unconscionable if we failed to act, and act nc
as
one nation renewing the ties that bind us across the generations.
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REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
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THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much, Dalton, and thank you, ladie
gentlemen. Welcome to the White House. I'm glad to see so many of yo
I'm
glad many of you brought your children. I'm glad Charlotte came. (Lau£
You know, I tried to get Charlotte to run for Congress a couple years ag
she said she had been reading in the newspapers that everybody in Wasl
was
no good, so she just couldn't do it. (Laughter.)
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There's actually a phenomenon now known as airport malaria, where pe
going
It's a good time for America, it's an interesting time for America. But it':
quite important that all of us understand, as I said in my State of the Uni
address, that these are not the kind of good times that should make our c
want to sit on its lead, if you will, or just relax and enjoy the fact that wc
have the lowest unemployment rate and the lowest crime rate in 24 year
lowest welfare rolls in 27 years, the lowest inflation in 30 years, the higl
homeownership in the history of our country — almost two-thirds of Am
now
live in homes that they own. That's a good thing.
But the world is still changing very, very rapidly. You know the revolut
that technology has wrought in your own work. The sheer volume of
knowledge is
doubling now every five years. I had the Nobel Prize winning head of tf
National Institute of Health, Dr. Harold Varmus, in here yesterday; the 1
Lady asked him over. We were talking to him about health developmem
Africa,
getting ready for my trip there, and especially emphasizing our concern
the 21st century one of our security challenges which will affect all of y
be the greater potential for global spread of disease, because of the flow
food across national borders more and more of us have — America expo
to
the rest of the world, and more and more people export food to us, and I
we're traveling more.
I am delighted to have you here again. And I’m glad you've had a good t
know the Attorney General has already spoken with you. I don't know il
anyone
else from the administration has. But I always am glad when you come 1
because I think you represent the heartbeat of America. And in so many
the
major task of my presidency has been to take these historic, sweeping, g
changes that are going on - literally dramatically changing the way peo
work
and live and relate to each other and the rest of the world - and to try to
sure they have a positive impact neighborhood by neighborhood, comm
by
community, family by family all across the country.
So in that sense what you do means a very great deal to me. I still read e
day the newspaper from the community I lived in before I came to Wasl
and
it's very interesting to see the difference in the front page of the commui
newspaper and the front page of the political newspapers here. (Laughte
say most of you come out pretty well in the comparison. (Laughter.) Bu
to do more with the prism through which you view the world.
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to Europe from different continents meet each other in the airport and m
literally gets transmitted. And in Africa it's a particular problem now be<
of the climate change, aggravated this year by El Nino, we have mosqui
bearing malaria at higher and higher altitudes than ever before, exposing
and more people and, in turn, a higher percentage of them get on airplar
they go to airports where the rest of us bump into them.
What we're attempting to do now in this session of Congress and in this
calendar
year beyond what happens in Congress, is to lay those foundations with
basically
the emphasis on, first of all, building an economy that offers opportunity
everyone over the long run. And that starts, in my judgment, with sayinj
we're glad we're going to have the first balanced budget in 30 years — w
get it this year, even though the proposal is for next year. I think if thing
stay on track we'll actually have a balanced budget, probably have a surj
And there are a lot of people, especially because it's an election year, wl
have wonderful ideas about what to do with that surplus. My idea is moi
old-fashioned: I don't think we ought to spend a penny of it until we knc
we have secured the Social Security system for the onslaught of baby be
retirees. I'm the oldest of the baby boomers, I'm 51, and basically the ba
boom generation is the generation born between 1946 and 1964, that 18
period, the largest group of Americans ever, except the kids that are nov
school. We've finally got a group bigger than the baby boomers.
oftentimes you would be reading the community newspaper and sometii
when you
see the television it's almost like - the national network news — it some
resembles like a community news program. And you just have to take a<
of
the fact that it's a culture that, thank goodness, is very different from tha
any other culture in the country in that sense.
I say that to make this point, not to scare you or bother you, but this is a
very small planet we inhabit. And yet the fundamental reality of our live
the life of our community. And sometimes when you think Washington
wacky,
it would help you to understand it if you just thought of Washington as <
community town in which the business — the primary business was poli
So the trick is, really, for us, how do we preserve the values, the integrit
and the success of communities and their important institutions, starting
families and building out, and reap all the benefits of these great global
changes. That has been the mission of this administration: to try to prep;
this country for the 21st century, or, to use my campaign metaphor, to b
that
bridge to the 21st century.
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most of the people I know and most of the people I grew up with at horr
middle class people. About half of them went to college, half of them di
They live on modest incomes. They are panicked with the thought that e
the
Social Security system won't be there for them, or, if it is there, the price
will be so expensive for our children that they won't have the money the
to
raise our grandchildren. And we don't believe that should happen.
So I cannot overemphasize what I believe is the importance of that. The
to have this year, among other things, four big regional, bipartisan, hope
nonpartisan, meetings and a whole other series of actions which will res
the end of this year, the first of next year, in a proposal that will make th
Social Security trust fund viable far beyond the present plan, which is 2<
which coincidentally is the year that all the baby boomers get into -- are
over. That will take it out there so that young people -- interestingly eno
a recent poll showed that young people in their 20s thought it was more
that they would see a UFO than that they would draw Social Security.
(Laughter.)
I like the X-Files, but I don't like that statistic. (Laughter.)
So what we want to do is to run the Social Security trust fund out there,
how we're going to do it — it may or may not take the projected surplus^
the next 10 years, it may or may not. And then we can decide what to de
second thing we've got to do is keep the balanced budget in place. Nothi
do
- it may vary from year to year. If the economy goes downhill, you kno
get less tax dollars and you have to spend more for unemployed people,
structurally we have eliminated the deficit; the built-in big deficit that v,
from 1981 forward is now gone. So now if you see a deficit come up, yr
know
it's just because there's been a dip in the economy - if we stay with the
pattern of discipline we have now.
And when we all retire, there will only be about two people working for
one person drawing Social Security if we continue to retire at present ra
And keep in mind, a lot of people are retiring well before 65 now. Now,
seems
to me that we have to understand that at least our generation, the baby b
We know that if we make modest changes now to prepare for this, they
have
almost no destructive impact on us when we retire, but they will guarani
our children will be able to enjoy the same sort of opportunities - hopel
even greater opportunities than we have.
That, I think, is very important for our long-term financial health. You c
see in the troubles these other countries are having economically what h
if
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ads. (Laughter.)
But let me say, this 4.6 percent is misleading because the unemploymen
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investors lose confidence in the economy. You can move your money at
the
ocean in the flash of a computer key. Money is very mobile today. Cour
will be rewarded if they have responsible budgetary policies; they will t
punished if they do not.
You see the unemployment rate that says 4.6 percent. The economists te
that there are about 3 percent of the people moving around all the time,;
you get the unemployment rate under 3 percent you've got a job shortag
know, there are want ads that — it's good for you because more people b
So whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, whether you consider y<
a
liberal or a conservative, you should wish your government to operate v
framework of discipline that will, first of all, permit the economy to gro
that over 90 percent of the people are always going to be able to do pret
by taking care of themselves and working and going forward. So that's t
thing I would like to emphasize.
I was in Las Vegas where carpenters have fringe benefits worth over $8
hour,
in the carpenters union. I'm glad. But they have a vibrant economy that i
it possible. In Washington, D.C., we've reduced the size of the govemm
part of our prosperity is because we've given you a different kind of
government.
The government in Washington today is the smallest it's been since Johi
Kennedy
was President. We've reduced it by 350,000. That's one of the reasons -
the only reason, but one of the reasons the unemployment rate in Washi
D.C., is above 8 percent, and in some neighborhoods even higher.
Nebraska and North Dakota is 1.9 percent. In Omaha you can go to wor
fast
food place for way above the minimum wage and get guaranteed health
benefits,
because they have to offer it to get help and because prosperity is such t
they can afford to offer it.
The second thing I think we have to do is to face the fact that not every
American has had a chance to participate in this newfound prosperity. T
are
still whole neighborhoods and communities, principally in our inner citi
in
some rural areas, where we don't have the kind of prosperity that Ameri'
enjoys,
where the unemployment rate is not low.
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it out and the gain is not taxable if the money is used for education.
And there are a lot of reasons why, but we now have the international m
science test for the 4th, Sth, and 12th grade. I'll tell you an interesting
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The last point I'd like to make about that is I think the most important th
we can do is to continue our efforts to preserve education, opportunity, <
enhance the quality of education. I believe 30 years from now, when the
There are tax credits for the junior and senior year, for graduate school,
adults going back to get training, 300,000 more work-study slots. The ir
on student loans is finally tax deductible. There are many more Pell Gra
You can have an education IRA now; you can save for your kids' colleg
education
and you can put the money in and it's not subject to taxation. Then you <
urban areas where we haven't seen recovery, and will put more investmc
other kinds in those areas. And I think it's important. I think all America
who are enjoying this prosperity would like to know that their friends ar
neighbors in other parts of the country at least have their chance to parti
in it.
So we have a very strong strategy, which I hope and pray the Congress ’
adopt
this year, to go to a community-based economic development model tha
put
tax incentives for new investment where they ought to be, in the rural ar
So we've really worked hard to open the doors of college. Why is that sc
important? Because you all know that it's a ticket to a better future. And
one questions that America has the finest system of higher education in
world. Unfortunately, no one would seriously assert that on the whole o
system
of elementary and secondary education is the finest in the world. We kn
isn't.
The HOPE Scholarships give a $1,500 tax credit - not a deduction, a cr
for the first two years of college to American families. That covers the c
community college tuition in nearly every community college in the cor
not
every one, but most of them.
of this last two years is written and people talk about how we passed the
balanced budget in 30 years, the next most important thing about what v
that
budget is that I believe we can really say now we've opened the doors oi
college
to everybody who is willing to work for it.
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the 12th grade.
get home. So this is important.
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We ought to help more kids get off to a good start. We ought to help ma
that we can have better-trained teachers, and we ought to support that sc
improvement.
thing. We rank near the top in the 4th grade, even though we have the m
diverse student body, not only by race and ethnic and national origin, bi
income -- more diverse than a lot of wealthy countries. We do great in tl
beginning. We are in the middle by the Sth grade. And we're near the be
Let me just mention a couple of other things. In addition to an economy
offers opportunity for all, we want a society that enables us all to honor
responsibilities to our families and to one another. Among other things,
proposed a Patient's Bill of Rights that I think is very important to deal ’
the fact that 160 million Americans are now in managed care plans. The
been a lot of good out of that. It's cut inflation in health care dramaticall
It's helped us to get the economy more healthy. But there are also all kir
The other thing I want to say is that these statistics also are misleading
because we still have a lot of schools that are as good as any that you co
find anywhere. And an awful lot of our problems are concentrated in a f
schools, and, again, we need a community approach to that.
Well, I think we need smaller classes, more teachers, better-trained teaci
The kids should be required to take more difficult courses. We have too
children who go all the way through high school and our put in these tes
they haven't even had the courses taught by people with the academic
background
to teach them. And I think that now that we have the money to contribul
that, without interfering with the primary role of the states and the local
governments for education, we have some funds -- we will have this yei
ought to invest in that.
One of the most important things in this community budget for educatio
substantial new funds to help schools stay open after hours to be commi
institutions to give children places to go if the parents are working. The
majority of juvenile crime is committed after school closes and before tl
I really admire what they're doing in Chicago to try to turn their school:
around. Now, in Chicago, if you don't pass exams, you can't get prornot
the
next grade. But instead of just holding you back, they have mandatory s
school - a drastic thing for a big city. But you know what else? The crii
rate has gone way down in the summertime in Chicago. (Laughter.) Wh
Because
the kids are now - they're being given a better future and also somethin
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Lastly, let me say that I believe that the nation needs to operate more by
values that we say we espouse but that you live with in your community
But maybe the most important thing we could do in the near term is to f
pass comprehensive legislation that would make it possible for us to im]
the proposals to reduce teenage smoking. More people die as a result of
tobacco-related illnesses every year than virtually every other thing you
think of put together — accidents, AIDS, cancer, all of it put together. Tl
thousand kids start to smoke every day, even though it's illegal; a thousr
have their lives shortened as a result of it.
We have the potential now, if we can resolve the honest policy differenc
pass a big plan here which will make a huge difference and cut the rate ■
literally save a million lives over the next five years. So I want you to ki
that I may have to — you know, it's an election year. There is only about
more days when Congress is scheduled to be in session in this town. Bu
want them to go home without dealing with the tobacco issue. I just thin
wrong. We've had a year to debate this, and it's enough time.
We have a major clean water initiative this year that we have the suppoi
interestingly enough, most of the agricultural groups in America - I'm r
pleased with that. Forty percent of our water is still not clean enough to
in, after all of the changes that have been made. We have basically clear
the problems of pollution from sewage systems and from factory run-of
of
And the Patient's Bill of Rights would simply say that you have a right t
advice from your doctor on what's best for you from a health care point
view,
not just whafs most cost effective; if you need to see a specialist, you hr
right to see one; if an emergency develops and you have to go to an erne
room, that should be covered by your plan. I think it's very important.
We also have a commission looking at reforming Medicare for the 21st
century,
and we plan to come up with a proposal - it's a bipartisan group - next
deal with that. We have an enormous opportunity here, I think, to do me
help people who are working to cover their child care costs. That's a big
of the budget this year.
pressures in this new system to sacrifice quality for profit if the going g(
tough.
it's very important. That means among things that I intend to continue tl
initiative I have to try and continue to push the frontiers of closing the g
between us across racial lines. I intend to try to get a reauthorization of •
national service program, Americorps, this year to give more young peo
chance to earn money for college by serving in their communities.
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and what it might mean for your community if it's an issue there.
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We can reduce greenhouse gas emissions, mostly carbon dioxide, whicl
about
a third from vehicles, about a third from buildings - residential and
commercial
— and about a third from manufacturing facilities and electric power pla
So we've got a system here that I think will allow us to continue to grow
economy and deal with that. And I urge you to look at the clean water ir
sort of erratic weather pattern will become more a normal feature of our
We just had horrible tornadoes in northeast Georgia today - a little late
season, really, for them normally. The thing I want to say to you is that •
believe that if I had time to talk to all of you, I could persuade you one c
one. (Laughter.)
I'm going to attempt -- and I'm having some trouble -- but I'm going to a
to persuade the Congress to pass my initiative so that America can do it:
on
the global climate change issue. There is no question that the climate is
warming, of the whole globe, at a more rapid rate. And if you look at so
the things that have happened this year from El Nino, you see what can
a
more permanent set of extreme weather developments if you have a pen
warming. This El Nino just — it warms what it affects, but it's a recurrin
phenomenon, interrupted by several years. Imagine what would happen
were
the condition every year from now on. That's what this is about.
the problem we have now is from so-called non-point pollution: develop
of all
kinds, people building golf courses that I love — (laughter) — agriculture
things of that kind.
We had one week below freezing in the winter time this year in Washin.
until
the second week of March, by which time a lot of stuff had bloomed am
my
tulip magnolias turned brown overnight because it froze again. (Laughte
can reduce these greenhouse gas emissions dramatically in ways that do
hurt
economic growth if we will use existing technologies for everything but
and
trucks, and technologies that are right on the brink of breakthrough for c
We do not have to give up economic growth, but we do have to pursue 1
with
some discipline and give some tax incentives and other things for peopL
what makes sense over the long run for the value of the economy. So th<
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just some of the things I wanted to mention to you.
going to fix it.
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Finally, let me say that the First Lady came up with what I thought was
wonderful idea, which is that we ought to try, as we move up on the nev
century
and a new millennium, to imagine what kind of gifts we'd like to give tc
future. And we have a program called Honoring the Past and Imagining
Future.
In the past, what we're trying to do is to preserve our country's most imj
heritage. It's going to cost us at least $13 million to preserve the Star
Spangled Banner. It's in trouble. We have to redo how we keep and mai
the
Constitution and the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence
Every one of you has in your community, one or two buildings, one or t
monuments, an old cemetery, something, that is a very important part ol
heritage. And just as we go crazy over the Internet and the future and all
this looking at the future, we ought to think about marking the millennft
saving the past for our children and our grandchildren.
Then as we look to the future, I think the most important thing we can d
invest in research so we that we can accelerate the beneficial impacts of
this change. We're going to have to take the heat. It's going to be easier i
make biological and chemical weapons and get airport malaria, but it wi
more
good than bad if we take advantage of it. So I propose to double the rest
budget for the National Cancer Institute. The genetic research we are do
now
offers the prospect in the fairly near future of literally unlocking a genet
code that will enable us to deal with most known forms of cancer; to
dramatically
increase the overall budget of the National Institute of Health and increg
overall research, including research in space. I want to build a space stal
at three football fields, in the sky. It's a good thing to do. We will learn <
lot from doing it that will help us here on earth, and I hope you will sup]
that.
But let me end where I began. The world is becoming smaller. Technok
revolutionizing everything. Knowledge is doubling every five years. Bu
we
really have to do is make all this work for us by preserving the integrity
At the Old Soldier's Home about eight miles north of here, there's a littk
cabin where Abraham Lincoln's family stayed every summer when it go
hot here
in the White House. And for years, the President's family would go up tl
and
spend the summer because there was no air conditioning. It's crumbling
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All over the world today, there are people who want to use the modern >
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community and the institutions that made this country great at the comn
level. And in a funny way, all this technology makes it possible for us tc
the benefits of the world home to every community if we have the wisdi
the
discipline and the determination to do it. I am very optimistic about the
future, but I know that it will not be a time free of difficulty.
Today I spent my time thinking about my trip to Africa - no American
president
has ever done a serious trip to Africa. I've talked to the Prime Minister c
Great Britain about peace in Northern Ireland. Yesterday, I met with Kii
Hussein to talk about peace in the Middle East. And people still find wa
behave the way they have for hundreds of years in negative ways.
Finally, let me just say this. You try to help people become informed an
only have information but perspective. We can have all the information
world, but if we can't think, if we can't reason, if we can't respect others
we can't agree on what the rules of civilized competition and ideas are,
in deep trouble. So you have to remember that you perform a critical fui
And in that sense, the more things change, the more they'll be the same.
Over 220 years, every challenge this country has met has required us to
three
things - you think about it. From the beginning to the Civil War, to the
Industrial Revolution to the Great Depression, to the Second World Wai
Cold War, to the Civil Rights movement to the environmental movemer
challenge we've met, we've had to do three things. We have had to wide
circle of opportunity to give more people their chance at the American c
We
have had to deepen the meaning of freedom, whether it was freeing slav
giving
women the vote, making sure immigrants weren't discriminated against,
had
to deepen the meaning of freedom. And we've had to strengthen the bon
our
union to come together instead of being driven apart.
draw apart from their neighbors, whether their Hutus and Tutsis killing i
other in Africa or what happened in Bosnia that we had to put a stop to <
terrible you read about in Kosovo now — you name it. In America, we s;
you
share our values, you obey the law, you show up for work every day, yo
right
by your kids, it doesn't matter, you can still be our neighbor. Your differ
are not as important as what we share in common. That is the great gift ’
give to our children and to the world in the new century, and you can he
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give that gift. Thank you very much. (Applause.)
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BUT WHERE IS FEMA IN ALL OF THIS- MAYBE THEY ARE THE
ALIENS...
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By TODD HALVORSON, Florida Today
ARECIBO, Puerto Rico The
Hollywood scenarios always are the same. Soon after we make contact
with aliens, hysteria seizes a
panicked public, or paranoid G-men
in black suits and dark sunglasses put a lid on the news.
But
in the real world, scientists expect neither mass pandemonium nor
a government cover-up if or when intelligent life is found elsewhere
in the universe. A media free-for-all in today's wired world coupled
with a carnival-like sideshow is more likely.
What happens
next will be something that we cannot in fact control or orchestrate
at all," said Jill Tarter, chief scientist with
the SETI Institute
of Mountain View, Calif., which is searching for extraterrestrial
intelligence. "It will be a huge circus."
The initial news
flash will be followed by special TV reports with such catchy titles
as "Alien Encounter at Arecibo." News crews will
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But do not return ET's call.
Any response to an alien message,
the protocol says, is a matter for "international consultations"
in other words, a worldwide
debate over who should say what for
humankind. Tarter, who played a major role in putting together the
protocol, is one of the many scientists who know full well the announcement
won't go by the book. But at the same time, scientists say: Street
rioting is unlikely.
Without a doubt, a 1938 radio dramatization
of The War of the Worlds triggered frenzy when thousands of listeners
thought invading
Martians were spreading death and destruction in
New Jersey and New York. The Sunday night broadcast disrupted households,
interrupted church services, spawned traffic jams and clogged telephone
lines. Some actually left their homes as wide-eyed mobs took to the
scurry to the
mountaintop observatory here, and a new genre of "expert" TV analysts
astronomers with a knack for snappy sound bites will form a lucrative
cottage industry. A human wave made of the UFO crowd, strange cults,
religious zealots and enterprising T-shirt vendors will crash onto
Puerto Rican shores, swamping the media event to beat all media events.
"That's one scenario that just might play out," Tarter said.
"What is unsettling is the fact that the situation will get away
from
us, and it will be very difficult to do our work."
A
plan, however, already is in hand to try to manage the event. Called
the "Declaration of Principals Concerning Activities Following the
Detection of Extraterrestrial Intelligence," it's a three-page set
of instructions adopted in 1989 by the International Academy of Astronautics.
Made up of 1,000 researchers from 65-countries, the academy presumes
the detection will come in the form of an intercepted radio
signal
rather than an alien spaceship visiting the White House.
The
protocol includes the following: Step One: Confirm, over and over
again. The discoverer will not make any announcement until proving
beyond a doubt that the radio beacon isn't a stray TV signal from
The Sci-Fi Channel.
Step Two: Verify, repeatedly and independently.
Don't claim an alien contact before scientists at other radio telescopes
can unequivocally determine that ET indeed is calling.
Step
Three: Tell Everybody. Alert the appropriate "national authorities."
Advise astronomers through the Central Bureau of Astronomical Telegrams.
Notify the secretary general of the United Nations. Ring up the media.
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Beyond that, the drill for authenticating a signal from ET effectively
spreads the news very fast. Astronomers in countries around the
world would be called to work in a harried bid to verify the alien
beacon, making leaks to the media unstoppable and a cover-up impossible.
In addition, those who think the government successfully could quash
the scientific discovery of the millennium "greatly underestimate
the urge to share heart-stopping news and the perceptive powers of
the press," Shostak said.
streets. But scientists say the chances that aliens actually will
show up in spaceships, threatening to lay waste to our cities and
abduct our women, are slim and none. It's more likely contact will
come in the form of a remote radio signal, they say.
"The point
here is that there would be no immediate danger," said SETI Institute
scientist Seth Shostak. "Just because you picked
up a radio signal
doesn't mean the aliens are hopping in their saucers and coming our
way."
However the announcement comes - if it does come - it
probably will not shock the world. Public opinion polls the past
few years show most people already believe life exists elsewhere
in the universe. And as for a government cover-up, much to the chagrin
of the
conspiracy crowd, the international protocol clearly states
that a confirmed alien detection "should be disseminated promptly,
openly and widely through scientific channels and public media."